did you guys see the solstice on the apprentice last night? this thing has been a concept forever, but its finally coming out. its fr with 177 hp, and starts under $20k. check it out at http://www.pontiac.com

The Saturn sky (same car, different name) looks even more promising, with the potential of a supercharger. At that's what I think I read in motor trend.

i was hoping it would be an s2k killer but i guess it will just be a miata killer. i just cant believe the price.

yea, ive been following both of em for about a year now and saw both of em at the NY auto show. got some pretty cool pics of each. I really like the way the sky looks, its basically the same car that will replace the Opel Speedster/Vauxhall VX220 in europe, except i think they are gonna get some turbo engines w/ 240 or so HP. None of those are planned for the US bound versions. I just wish they were a little lighter, they are like 200 lbs heavier than a miata

[quote name='Shane.Trammell' date='Apr 15 2005, 12:43 PM']did you guys see the solstice on the apprentice last night? this thing has been a concept forever, but its finally coming out. its fr with 177 hp, and starts under $20k. check it out at http://www.pontiac.com


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i thought it was mid engined or rear engined? it needs a factory turbo or supercharger!

[quote name='toplessFC3Sman' date='Apr 15 2005, 09:44 PM']yea, ive been following both of em for about a year now and saw both of em at the NY auto show. got some pretty cool pics of each. I really like the way the sky looks, its basically the same car that will replace the Opel Speedster/Vauxhall VX220 in europe, except i think they are gonna get some turbo engines w/ 240 or so HP. None of those are planned for the US bound versions. I just wish they were a little lighter, they are like 200 lbs heavier than a miata


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If that happens they will never sell. The chassis on that is suppposed to be super-versatile - I think what they mean by this is that they're going to sell it under a load of brands. If GM is going to do this, they'd be better off using Lotus's new chassis which actually is versatile - front or mid engined and will be used on all their new cars from the Elise to the new Esprit and 2+2.



Mark

looks good. pretty much copy of the miata in looks department.

[quote name='Skylinecar1982' date='Apr 16 2005, 12:55 AM']Both of you are so funny. No seriously. Where was the rx8 engineered and manufactored? not here. WoW your name has rowtar in it. I hope that was as funny as yours. Nothing good came out of american cars since the early 70's. And I hate american cars.


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so what do you think is wrong with american cars>

[quote name='Skylinecar1982' date='Apr 16 2005, 01:55 AM']Both of you are so funny. No seriously. Where was the rx8 engineered and manufactored? not here. WoW your name has rowtar in it. I hope that was as funny as yours. Nothing good came out of american cars since the early 70's. And I hate american cars.


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since the early 70s? are you kidding me...my 01 ss will take out almost any car from the "muscle" car era..those cars were slow and couldn't handle.

[quote name='Skylinecar1982' date='Apr 16 2005, 02:55 AM']Both of you are so funny. No seriously. Where was the rx8 engineered and manufactored? not here. WoW your name has rowtar in it. I hope that was as funny as yours. Nothing good came out of american cars since the early 70's. And I hate american cars.


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You are just a bitter person that is all. So compare an RX-7 from 1993 to say, a Camaro from 1993. Which has actually lasted longer? Lets not compare speeds, 1/4 mile times, all that jazz. Let's compare reliability, mileage on the original motors.



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