Alright, this isn't a car part... but something for you people out there that need a good video card for your games.

This is an ATi Radeon x700 Pro AGP.

In my computer I was able to run The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion with max view distance, Bloom (HDR style), Max Detail textures (w/2048x2048 upgraded landscape textures), etc, etc... basically its a really good graphics card, I just dont have an AGP slot anymore or I would still use this.

http://www.ati.com/products/radeonx700/specs.html (its the one with the 8 rendering pipelines)

It has the original box, the power adaptor, composite and s-video cables, HDTV out cable, DVI to VGA adaptor. Its missing the orignal driver disc... but better new drivers can be downloaded from ati.com or I can burn them to CD if you need them (windows/linux has a built in driver that works until you can get the offical ones). I can get pictures if you really want them... dunno why, but I am leaving that offer open.

All this for $100, I paid $150 for this not too long ago... 3 months I believe.

Best way to reach me until I can sell this and buy an pci-e card (get my computer working again) is to email me... kouta@comcast.net

~Thanks

I think my brother may be interested in that card Kouta. I will let you know.

Jumped on the PCI-Xpress route did you? Let me know the details of your new system. Us geeks need to keep tight!

Not on purpose, My other computer died, so I felt like upgrading to an athlon64... and none of the boards really have agp on them so PCIe it is...



Compy tentatively is going to be...

MSI RD480 Neo2-FI

AMD Athlon64 3500+

1GB Corsair XMS RAM

Dual Sapphire Radeon x1600PRO cards in CrossFire

300gb SATA HDD

then my external USB2 DVD Burner.



so far have the ram, hdd, burner...

old system used to be

DFI LanParty NF2 Rev2

AMD AthlonXP 2500+ (3200+ oc)

1GB Corsair XMS RAM

the ATI Radeon x700PRO

then an old WD ATA100 120gb HDD

external dvd burner blablabla



My old comp might not seem that impressive, but it was tweaked to hell and back... and like my original post it played Oblivion very nicely. As well as anything else I threw at it... wow, daoc, fear, hl2, etc

my current PC aint really anything special either. I only got a 128 MB Asus ATI Radeon x600 TVD VIVO. (2) 256MB Dual channel DDR3200. TV tuner. 2.8GHz P4 Hyperthreaded. Can run the games I want/do play fine. I mainly used the box to mess around with getting OSX natively running on it. I was booting between OSX, XP, and Linux up until a little while ago. I am actually considering/looking to trade my system for even the base model Mac Mini (not even the new Intel ones). Next system I would love to go the route you went, but I would probably go the Intel Dual Core (64bit compatible) route because the CPUs are a couple hundred cheaper. Maybe next year I will build a new PC... Definately will go the water cooled route also.

yeah the only reason i got the a64 is because i found a really nice deal on it w/motherboard... but the motherboard was crap, and it also didn't have a real agp slot on it...



hrmm i wanna play with osx, hopefully i will be able to get that to boot on my comp, not holding my breath though since last i read it needed a intel processor w/sse3

the newest a64's support sse3, i do believe, but yeah, it will need a CPU_ID of intel for osx to work right, iirc



as for your crossfire, have you seen crossfire in action yet? until they come out w/their version of sli physics, crossfire just doesn't cut it yet...if you want dual gpu's, go nvidia. im ati all the way (x800 pcix right now), but dual-carding it just isn't in the cards for ati atm

SLI anything is going to be better than a single GPU. OSx86 will boot and install on AMD64 as long as the DVD is patched for it or if the DVD is patched for SSE2 and the CPU supports SSE2. I had it running on my P4 with SSE2 only. OSX is beautiful but doesn't work for my capture card and lacks good 3rd party software. Not to mention the lack of REAL gaming support. As a productivity and stability OS you really can't go wrong with it though. I can help you get OSX useable if you need a hand.

DAMN, I am so lost! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

CrossFire doesn't cut it for framrates vs nvidia, but ati just released a new driverset today thats supposed to speed it up. I'm also not really looking for framerates but picture quality and price... the setup I choose is about 150$ cheaper than the nvidia sli setup with the 6600gt which only has 8 pixel pipelines rather than the 12 the x1600 has. Plus if its any better than my x700pro then I am all for it, since dual x1600pros is only going to cost me approx 40$ more than pci-express version of the x700pro. If its the same... then I am not out that much money and I can always just sell an x1600 https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

I know its not the best of the best, but its cheap and I want to play around with the setup. Ati just getting into the dual gpu thing, and I wanna play with it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



As for OSX... awesome i need to read up more on that it looks really interesting... and will be odd if i can tri boot xp x64, vista, and osx https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

I tri-booted xp, osx, and linux. Got to love Acronis software. They make a killer bootmanager.

I agree with you when it comes to video quality. ATI is known mostly for their video quality. nVidia has always made excellent drivers but ATI made up for their poor drivers several years back. So as far as driver quality goes I think nVidia and ATI are on the same level at the moment.

Pixel pipelines are always going to dominate for newer games. The more pipelines the merrier. You can easily get away with having slower GPUs when you have more pipelines.

I sold the video card, thanks everyone.

I was preparing my drive to install osx onto...

Using partition magic 8... yeah bad idea it corrupted everything and i lost all my data and its not recoverable by about 30 different programs... it will see it but the bigger files are too fragmented to recover successfully... oh well, thats what the interweb is for https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

That is what happend to me one time. I stopped using partition magic to do the partitioning after that. Using the disk utility in the OSX installer worked a lot better.

Or I could have just been smart and looked that pe8 doesn't support winxp64 *Sigh*

the mac thingy looked like it was trying to do wierd stuff the the drive... oh well data lost, internet to gain.



now to make this crossfire thing to shine... i can do it... just gotta figure out all these blasted settings again... so rusty.

yeah partition magic doesnt work on xp 64



nvidia > ati



I went with the 3700+ on mine and its a GREAT overclocker. kinda wish I had went dual core tho

My next PC will definately be dual core. I am going the Intel route though because for the first time in a long time Intel chips are cheaper than AMD.

the preliminary things of nvidia vs ati crossfire vs sli were somwhat inaccurate since ati was still working on the drivers. in recent reviews of x8x8 sli vs x16x16 sli vs 8x8x crossfire show the crossfire not that far behind even nvidia's x16x16 sli architecture. Plus this computer was built on a budget, my ati crossfire setup was 200$ cheaper than a comparable nvidia sli setup. I am sure by now though nvidia has stepped up the driver area, plus ati has a big hurdle to tackle using thier dongle setup, thats another reason I am using the x1600... so I don't have to deal with that but now my pci-e bus and processor have more overhead to deal with. I am sure I can somewhat minimize it, but it will always be there... but even with nvidia now you dont have to have the internal cross link thing (i have no idea what its called right now) which should add more overhead as well. Will also be interesting to see what ati does with thier xpress 3200 chipset.

Dual core is nice, but alot of games are having a hard time really taking advantage of the setup, just like they dont really take advantage of the 64bit extentions at the moment. Also depending on how things change with AMD they might not have to since AMD is trying to go reverse-hyperthreading (having multiple cores/instruction paths look like one path to the os) and also hypertransport 3.0 got ratified. Also looks like socket 939 and 940 are dieing sometime soonish as well...

I just think it sucks how much more its divided now though...

Intel vs AMD, then the subcatagories of Intel SLI vs Crossfire, then also on the flipside AMD SLI vs Crossfire... so there is basically a total of 4 arch-motherboard/chipsets ya have to deal with now.

My computer was never ment to be the best, just meant to perform better than my last one and give me some more options to play around with. Plus i like the ansiotropic filtering that the ati has over the nvidia, plus being able to have HDR+AA is nice. I like playing with lighting. Granted the nvidia has better framerates, I still have playable framerated with debatably but marginally better graphic quality.

Oh well as with everything its all how much I wanted to pay and what I have to deal with to get what I want. This setup does what I currently want it to so I am happy with it for now.

good to hear you like what you got https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png