Well, it has been decided after all the new changes in my life now, why not make some big changes in my car. I'm not sure I can actually drive my blue car anymore without getting sick. I feel very strongly about this, and Ive called a few people that are willing to either do the change over, or help me with the change over to turbo charge my car. I'm getting very excited to get this Camden off my car, and possibly get some decent power finally. I never thought this day would come https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png ....whooooo hooooooo turbo baby.

superchargers on rotaries are gay... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



you'll enjoy the turbo a whole lot more. Just make sure you dont go with something like a stock s5 turbo.

Im not sure about what turbos to pick from but I think the place that is making the change over said something about a T-4 or T-66 or something like that. Yeah i will be 100% happier.

I think a turbo is a great idea. I really liked the feel of ioTus when I drove it. That spool up is NICE!!!!!!

yeah. you'll like it. a HELL OF ALOT more power. all the superchargers i've driven i wasn't impressed at all. that truck with the 3rd gen engine pulled less than my 12a.

looks like i have found the right forum



i also suport code blues joining of the AA , anti A****'s

holy crap i have 50 posts on here, i cant remember ever joinging this site haha.... weird.... my name worked tho

I'm already starting to like this place better. It's gonna take a little figuring out the new way, but it's nice. Thanks for havin us.

Funny you say that i was just working on a new Avtar

Damn you have more posts than I do....now. Its good to know that some do stand up for what they believe in or the truth. You were very brave with your beliefs. Makes you the better person since I couldnt stick up for what i really believed in. So thanks.



Feels good to be a regular member...now I can have fun and be myself instead of someone Im really not.

Hope the best for ya. I can tell ya that (After fixing my idle/tps/timing/etc problems) that I love my lil stock turbo.

Holy sh!t!! I never even noticed that. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

Hrmm... i dunno how your post was supposed to come across but after reading what i posted... it does seem really retarded. I guess what I am saying is, from my experiance I like a small turbo that can spool up rather quickly. *shrugs* either way I hope the codeblue car will eventually get to somewhere where ya can be more proud of it and will be more to your liking.

There i think thats better... i dunno ...

If you need anything just lemme know, I'm sure I owe you at least one https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



- Ryan

Till they find out how much time you spend on Brokeback Mountian. LOL

I tried to call you yesterday but you were out at lunch. You never turn your aim on anymore https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png

I will try to give you a call today, if not Monday.

That quoted the wrong post. I'm kind of an idiot, and a little bit of a slow learner.

I'm out to lunch for 1/2 hour at some point between 12 and 1. If I'm in the building and just not working I'd be more than happy to talk to you anyway. Just tell them who it is and that I'm expecting a call from you.



- Ryan

Good Luck in selling the super charger. I used to want one, but not after all the problems you had with heat and now the other problems that have jumped up. Plus the power out put was never up to par IMO.



I'm glad some weight has been lifted off your shoulders now that you are not a mod.



Joe

Ahh... dun matter though :p At least we are all here https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

holy crap deena with the ammount of work you do to the car, the numbers your going to end up putting down might be REAL scary!

If I put 20k into a car I would expect at least 500hp

Yeah Im hoping to get it all turbo'd by abf....but if not it will be soon after.

I want to make sure I do my research this time and take my time for the right thing.

Oh my god, you have NO idea how long I've been waiting for you to say that!



FINALLY! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



There's only what, two more camden owners for me to convince? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Yeah, superchargers never have impressed me too much actually. Ive seen dyno vids of rotaries AND Miatas that were supercharged. Sure, they made more power than stock and were probably more fun to drive, but it wasnt THAT impressive, not like some numbers that Ive seen thrown down with turbo setups costing half as much. Ill never forget seeing a fellow forum members black TII on the dyno pull over 300 RWHP, that was fawking insanely cool. I cant remember whos it was now, it was so long ago. Jerk Racer maybe?



~T.J.



EDIT: Holy crap, around 6,000 posts on the other forum, and only a little over 100 here? Boy, Im gonna have to even that out! Looks like more time will be spent here from now on. Besides, I like this VB better, its more like the other ones Im on, haha.

That's relative to the charger used. The craptastic Camden unit doesn't even make a good paperweight it's so useless. Now, with a twin-screw (and very perhaps the axial once they finally start hitting the market again!), it's very easy to make an impressive setup, 350rwhp with a torque curve that makes you think you've got a V8 hiding under the hood. However, there aren't too many twin-screw kits due to cost. I've made some decent numbers with centrifugal blowers thrown on a rotary, but it feels so much similar to a turbo it's preferable just to go turbo instead due to cost and aftermarket.

Deena, I hope you get evereything worked out with your car. You should be able to smile when you drive it and it should bring you joy. I think you'll like turbo boost much better.



Good Luck in the change out. I want a turbo FB also.



Joe

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png Ok here we go again changing my mind...

After a long conversation with a good friend today on the phone. I have come to the conclusion that I really do like Superchargers.



My only problem is that Camden Superchargers suck and do not produce the power that I am looking for, and Im sure will never produce the power I want, unless some miracle happens. So I have decided that I'm wanting Blue to still be Supercharged but go with the centrifugal type blower such as the Whipple. Not sure if theres enough time for the change over before ABF.



I hope this can be done fairly easy, if not I will go turbo. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

Hehe... cool, sarah wants to get a supercharger for her car once we get the loans paid of, so we will be taking notes from you https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Have you looked into the Nelson/Paxton kits that were sold for the 2nd Gens? I think Mariah Motorsports sold them (or used too). Centrifugal type and they basically look exactly like a turbo... Only belt driven!

Found this image on Mariah Motorsports website

http://img14.imagevenue.com/loc249/th_5b293_pax4.jpg

Damn it, I had more to add! Too late to edit now!



Another interesting site

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/products/



As far as keeping temps down centrifugal seems to be the most flexible and easiest to intercool. Also the centrifugal type would seem to be a perfect fit for a rotary because bost increases as RPM increases.



If getting this thing running before ABF is the plan. AND you want to stay supercharged I think that going with the centrifugal type is going to give better results than a Camden. I think install and fabrication would be easier also.

This is just my .02

Trying to help/give ideas.



Keep us informed (I am sure you will!).

Supercharger, turbocharger, whaaaaatever.



You name it and we'll stick it on there https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

do both!!! super-tubro charged!!

Yikes, I think you'll want to do a little more research first. A centrifugal supercharger will feel just like a turbo, actually a bit more 'laggy', a turbo would be a MUCH better idea than a centrifugal. The whipple is a twin-screw positive displacement, it'll have 'instant' boost just like the Camden, except the efficiency will be EXTREMELY better. However, the downside is nobody makes a kit for any twin-screw chargers, and everything must be fabricated (estimate a total cost of around $5k or so including the charger for a Whipple, though with a power output capable of around 350rwhp depending upon the charger). You could possibly locate a Millenia S twin-screw and throw that on with a little fabrication (Similar to what 88IntegraLS did on his 2nd gen), those should be good for about 300 to the wheels, just requires fabrication sadly. There is some work going on with Axial superchargers again, but mostly for the RX8.

See now you got me changing my mind again. Out of everyone I do trust your judgement as you have always been upfront and honest with me, even when I hated what you said at times https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png . Even though I do want to keep the car supercharged, the smartest thing for me to do to make things easier on myself is just go with the norm. (turbo), its less hassle modding everything all over again, and cheaper.



I'm hoping someone likes Camden Superchargers and will buy my blower for a cheap price so I can get started on a new project. I don't think scraping it will get me close to what I paid for it in the first place

Yeah, that's the severe downside to supercharged rx7's right now, they're great when you've got a decent charger and it's done properly, but the Camden unit itself isn't very efficient, so it leaves a TON to be desired, and nobody really makes a bolt on kit for any twin-screws, so it's hard to have a nice positive displacement setup short of paying someone a lot to fabricate it for you or doing it yourself. The centrifugal chargers are a fair bit easier to install, as all that's required is some brackets and rerouting intake ducting, the only problem with them though is they build boost progressively, so there's not much low end being added, which is why a turbo is usually easier and better since you'll probably have more low end and top end than trying to fit one on. They really benefit vehicles where a turbo application doesn't have a whole lot of room to work with. Wish I could say do this and do that and have you with a twin-screw because I know you'd laugh your ass off at the Camden unit once you drove in one and could keep the car supercharged, but at the moment it's not a very feasable task unless your a machinist. Haha, yeah, it seems people hate what I say a lot of times, but sooner or later I end up right, most of the time!