Just to let you know, I'm a loyal person. And I stick to things that I believe in or feel that have done me a great service. My opinion, this is our new home. regardless of whats been going on or whats changing right this minute over at the other site, This site is primary!! Nopistons NW!!! (funny though, I have pistons.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683621.gif )



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awesome.

I won't post there until after Kettlman's day in court. Assuming he wins, and the defendants pay him what he is awarded, then this messiness should be over. In my opinion, any changes that happen on that website are meaningless until after Kettlman's day in court. It would be nice to know when the court date is, and I hope the defendants don't try to postpone the court date.. that would be an abuse of the legal system and a tacit admission of guilt.



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Even if kettlman loses or wins. we were wronged over there. I will never post over there. unless it has somthing to do with cb2 and I. I hate the place and the people that run it.

All I have to say at this point is WHAT OTHER PLACE?



Roger I think Kettlmans court date is in March sometime. Win our lose nothing will change on how I feel.

yep the way i feel towards them has nothing to do with kettlemans motor either! there are many things they have wronged us with!

My thinking is -- after they lose in court, maybe they will reflect on their actions and change their ways, and maybe the website owner will then change his ways also. I'm not willing to forgive and forget, but I would consider posting there again if some serious changes are made, specifically that there is no more forum sponsorship. What a stupid idea that was! I want to see serious changes by the website owner, not just meaningless words from a newly-appointed moderator.



Yeah, I know... call me a dreamer.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

dreamer..

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...withstupid.gif dreamer https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...withstupid.gif

okay okay.. rofl.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

well, i like this place better. it has a x-rated. ha ha ha

other than that i am upset at all that has happened over there and don't care to call it my forum. after all i am a nobody that don't contribute anything at all to that forum. wait, i could have sworn a couple of my posts are in the faq section.......... anyways i will post over there only to get more to meets. and if it is necessary to. but all the fun is here. love the chat box.

okay, i was just wondering. I know Ddub is the new mod and boast of trying to bring the forums back to what it used to be. But yeah, I just wanna know where we stand as a group and family unity.



Once I felt some people have been wronged, especially if they were once good friends, I dont care what happens now, its respect and unity I look for. I am glad we all stand together.

you gonna make it too izzys monday?

Man, I dont work my 12hr shift anymore, I work mon to thrus 5pm to 3am. I had to take the schedule to finish school in the daytime. So I can not make it. I have weekends off all the time now. I need to get me a new carb, the other week when I went to put a new battery in it ran like crap. It shot flames thru my tII hood scoop a few times. Once I get that taken cared of, I gotta get the exhaust done and the some of the electrical stuff (wiper/tail lights) Man I wanna roll to ABF in my rx7.. if not, my m30.



gotta see my friend's co worker will let me spray my car at his place.

good luck with your car.

i like here better just because of the spambox that the nw has basically taken over haha.

Ah... I finally understand now.



Two days ago, Boostd7 (Ryan) posted on a thread started by SonicRat in the lounge, and Ryan again stated that he has been served papers from the Atkinses lawyer. Ryan implied that those papers demanded that he shut down all criticism of the Atkinses on the rx7club.com website, and of course as we all know, that is exactly what he has done. The complaints about the Atkinses have come from all over the country, not just the Northwest, and they are valid complaints, but such complaints are no longer allowed on that website.



I now see what the rest of you have already seen. Any of the sponsors of that website can get what they want. Ryan can easily solve this problem by divesting himself of the income that he receives from the sponsors, but he will not do that, probably for two reasons - the amount of money he receives from the sponsors is significant, and also when he decides to sell the website he can ask a higher price because of that income. That website is run as a pure business now (and has been for some time), and any complaints about the sponsors are a threat to that business, but you will never see those words on that website. Sonic did a great job of trying to draw Ryan into a discussion about that, but Ryan is too business-savvy to give the game away.



Sorry it took me so long to understand that.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Do you really think they served him with papers? I don't think they did, I think its just a way that Ryan can justify all thats happened.

truth though, I dont like how he handled everyone's issues. Maybe there is something behind the scenes, but these are legitimate complaints, and I pointed that out. he just didnt want to deal with it, so it was ban or shut up. All I know is that there was some strong armed tactics on that forum and I felt it was wrong. I know he obviously felt the mass exodus and got another mod/mods (nothing against them). I see that they wanna make it like nothing is wrong/no issues. To me, I aint biting.

Even if they did, that's just a opening legal tactic any ambulance-chaser would make, regardless of how absurdly unenforceable it is. I can't see why Atkins would bother to do so. More likely a simple PM stating they'd withdraw sponsorship $ if the negative voices weren't silenced was all it took. Ryan Scott is hardly some sort of rotary stalwart; he's all about the page views, and nothing but. All of his "it's a legal matter" threads are misdirection from the fact that he's silencing critics for money.



dDub is a pompous ass. Being one myself, I have a knack for identifying them. The forum will hardly have improved under him.



-dave

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif "being one myself, I have a knack for identifying them"



I dont know boostd7 or dDub, just seeing that they are trying to get pass the situation without addressing it. I dont like how one "sponsor" called other sponsors to not support the NW group. that to me is just plain fukd up. Just cause they dont wanna face warrenties or hear their name get dragged to thru the dirt, I think thats uncalled for. But hey, you burn your terroritorial area and friends(probably most of your customers/return customers) what do you expect to happen? Might be able to strong arm the forums and ban people, but in real life, word of mouth will effect business and personal relationships.



I just didnt wanna see everyone think its okay and go back to the other site. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif



plus we run the chatbox!!!!

The other NW forum is like a ghost town. Other than a few posts on the Apple Blossom stickie, nothing is happening. People stop by to look, but no one is posting.. it's like people are stopping by to look at a train wreck. The new moderator stated a few days ago that another person is being asked to be co-moderator, but obviously that other person has refused the position, and I don't blame him/her. After what happened to Deena, anyone in their right mind can see that it has become a lackey position now, doing the dirty work and thuggery for people with money. And Dee refused to do that, so she was fired. It's all about protecting the sponsors now. It's sad to see how far that forum has fallen in such a short time. It's disgraceful what Ryan has allowed to happen, but it's his karma..



It's interesting that the Atkinses visit this website almost every day, and they haven't said anything of substance. It would be nice if they answered two questions -- whether their lawyer actually served legal papers on Ryan, and also what action the papers demanded of Ryan. I think it is obvious that the exodus (caused by the Atkinses) has taken a huge toll on the old website, and if the Atkinses want to maintain an adult presence on this website they should answer those two questions in a simple and straight-forward manner, otherwise they look like ghosts passing through.



I like this website very much. It's nice and comfortable. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

the funniest thing about all this is that what boosted don't want people to do to atkins, well he lets everybody and anybody do it to Gregs. there are so many threads bashing him it's pitiful. yet it's all right because he doesn't give any money.........to anyone. lol

On a personal level here....I figured after moderating for Ryan for a couple years, not only in the NW section but in a few other sections such as the "good guy bad guy", Lounge, and all the classified sections, that he would have at least given me some reason why he fired me by sending an e-mail or PM, or catching me on AIM. Even if it was "hey you're not doing your job to protect me and my sponsors" would have been something, but nothing along with ignoring me, shows me that he really doesn't care about the people that help him in his forum. Never in the past 2 years have I really seen Ryan thank any of the moderators and admins in his forum. I know the amount of time that some of the moderators spend trying to help in the forum. What is ironic is that I had looked up to Ryan. However, he has lost my respect after seeing him post things such as "all you no body's", and basically calling people "liars" and the way he has treated regular members. It is all of those "nobodies" that buy from sponsors so that sponsors can pay him, but he along with some other sponsors seemed to have forgotten that. He jumped to wrong conclusions by just gathering pieces that he collected off the forum or only listening to one side of a story. Although he may claim that he heard both sides of an issue, those were just empty words.

I know there's more behind the scene stuff and politics as usual, but oh well, I only will buy from sponsors that support our causes and things. thats why I figure when Kettleman makes that page, we can do our own "thing" and show that we deserve sponsorship.



And we dont have to worry bout ONE sponsor trying to influence the others.



I'm just glad we are all on the same page (webpage and thinking).

i enjoy not seeing every single post over here and atkins in it, i am not completely sure of what happens, and i am not trying to get into it in any way, but i do enjoy not having to deal with them, i agree with most people in the fact that a forum should be able to talk about good/bad experiences and not get banned or deleted because someone had a bad experience with a single shop, only becuase that shop supports the forum, because of all of this, i do have to say i will more than likely NOT be buying anything from atkins...

Uhhh... No.



I know Drew and he's not a "pompous ass" as you so (ridiculously) say. People have a way of coming off differently via typing than they do in person. Take someone's "writing" with a grain of salt. I know I'm probably completely different in person than I appear over the internet.

Drew is a pretty nice guy. Someone has to do the dirty work left over there, and not an easy job I might add. Ddub is a bit more strict, but thats just him wanting things to go smoothly, unlike me where I allowed personal feelings to get in the way at times. He is just more of a tech person, but doesnt make him a bad guy. Takes a tough person to do that job, and that I was not. Change is always good https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

like i said, dont know the guys, but if they ignore whats been goin down, then that is an issue itself.

Given that I was referring to his ability to referee an internet forum and judging that by his internet persona, it wasn't a ridiculous statement. /shrug.

How does my moderating make me a pompous ass? Because I enforce the actual rules (talking about for the FS/WTB, Lounge, and 2nd gen sections here, Deena did an awesome job in the NW section) that are written on the board, whereas many other mods of many other sections don't give a rats ass what the rules even state?



Sorry :|





And thanks for sticking up for me Erik ;D You're a good guy too, probably one of the most positive/upbeat people I've met.