what u guys think? Subaru Imprezza WRX vs. 3rd Gen rx7, both stock?

my bet is that wrx would beat rx7 off line(due to 4wd), but rx7 catch up? - more streamlined, not as heavy?

i would go with rx-7 in quarter mile.

stock vs stock, hell even "slightly" modded the rx7 would win, and thats a fact. i think even in the turns, with a skilled driver the rx7 would win.

The WRX isn't as fast as everyone makes it out to be. If it was as fast as some people think then it wouldn't be so cheap.

With equal drivers, the RX-7 will most certainly beat the WRX "in the turns".



With the 280 hp STI, the margin will be smaller, but the RX-7 will still claim victory.

WRX first 60 feet maybe even first 1/8th mile but then FD all the way!

hmmm....how about Fd vs. Mitsi Evo VII?

The 7 will eat its lunch my 2nd gear.....assuming a decent driver and some decent tires. If the wrx is automatic he might as well hang it up.



STEPHEN

well my TII keeps up with my friends WRX (he just has exhaust and cold air intake right now) and I have ehaust, turbo leak, shitty tires and a loud clunking sound when I shiftgears) (maybe driveshaftor rear rubber boot) so I think the FD would win. Ill have to have my freinds FD to run against his and ill post pics and results. My freind has had his FD only for about 2 months so he doesnt wanna push it yet. (*****)

I raced my friend with a WRX...1st and 2nd gear were his...especially since I launched HORRIBLY...then 3rd gear came and I dusted him...BAD...like taking candy from a baby...



But neither of us are stock https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/moon.gif

:ph34r: I'm a big fan of the WRX, and I think the question you pose isn't one that is fair. I didn't know much about about rotary power untill I worked with two guys that own a 2nd gen and a 3rd gen. So back to the question at hand I don't think putting a single turbo against twin sequential turbo's is a really fair fight. That would be like putting a second against a third and you all know the outcome of that. So it should be a WRX vs. a FZ, and the answer I don't know but it would be a good race.

What's an FZ? :unsure:

well I dont think 1.3 liters is fair against 2.2 liters... a lot of displacement difference.... dont use that kind of argument...



But if the WRX is a 5spd manual I think it will get the FD for at least the first 60 feet. AWD launches are wicked.... but the FD will begin to pull the wrx back in and pass him.... I raced a GSX Eclipse and this was the same outcome! He killed me off the line and through 2nd gear. I hit 3rd and began making it up around the end of 3rd (which is roughly a 1/4 mile) I was ahead.... so I give this nod to the FD. Which is a ******* sweet ass car!

Yep! I pulled on that WRX NO prolemo AFTER 2nd gear. I normally beat everyone on the launch(I launch mad quick), but the AWD definitely got the best of me. <_<

First off an FZ is a second gen. 7. Now to reply to the others. The arguement I made was not about displacement, it was about the fact that you are asking if a car with a small single turbo can keep up with a car that has twin, count them 2 sequential turbo's so therefor, no turbo lag boost from start to finish. You guys are also right saying that 7's are bad ass cars. I certainly give em big props. :yinyang:

do u mean FC. i dont know where they call 2nd gens FZ's.

its hard to say in any race, most ppl can't drive and launch horribly. I've beaten plenty of cars that should have stomped me for this reason alone.

:ph34r:Sorry about that I misheard someone. It is FC

fd all teh way

Just because a car has two turbos doesnt mean it is any faster. The fastest rx-7's are single turbo. I'm sure the wrx wasnt experiencing much lag either (stock turbo=tiny). And to the fool who said 1.3 liters isnt a fair comparison to 2.2 liters, 2 things.



1. The only WRX's that come with a 2.2 liter engine are the japanese 22b imprezas, the american rexs come with the EJ20T (2 liter)



2. If youre going to be comparing displacement (which IMO is pointless), the 13b is functionally a 2.6 liter engine.

Here's my experience with the WRX:



Experience 1:

2nd gear rolling - Even to the end of 2nd, I started pulling hard by the middle of 3rd, shut down at end of third with about 3 car lengths on him.



Experience 2:

Freeway, downshifted to 4th walked him like I walked the S2000 the night before.



They are fast, if your fly'n over dirt and sliding sidways around a turn.



93 CYM R1 - daily driver

Fresh Engine Rebuild

New Turbos

HKS catback, and that's it

Excuse me FOOL???



watch it!



2nd I missed by .2 ******* liters...

3rd...



I hate lineups like that....

Chevy guys saying the new 03 cobra isnt fair cause it is supercharged

so it is a supercharged 281 vs a 346. I hate lineups like that.



The cars are being compared because both are capable cars. But they are in different classes.



The RX7's are put down as 1.3 liters.

the WRX's 2.2 2.0 who cars... thats still .7 to .9 liters difference.





my vote still goes the same way FD!

Next time be a bit more friendly when choosing your words.

hey would the rx, 3rd gen beat a 22B over the 1/4 mile? both stock

at the time when the wrx first came out my friend bought one, and for a while had the fastest in the midwest. i've driven both cars, i have a 3rd gen myself and the wrx FEELS faster, but isn't by FAR. The launches on a wrx are sick, simply put. when everyone is saying that a wrx would stomp a rx7 to the 60ft mark is correct. thats where the wrx's shine, unless you blow gears in the wrx, which is really easy ( trans' SUCK ). to put it in words that can be easily understood, both the cars were g-teched and i think you all know the answer after that on who would win, street or strip. can you say 3rd gen?

for a road course.. imho...the best driver....

straight line... seven

did anybody compare the bs #s the factory put out for both cars?

well just an idea.....



One thing I think you guys may be missing(and hopefully someone knows) is the gear ratio on both. I dont know if the tranny in the WRX is shared with the 2.5RS but if it is, thats a very bad thing. I've driven the RS and felt it had way, way too short ratios. On the other hand FDs have what feels like a better matched or taller ratios.

Again, just an idea