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rx7_dren 04-22-2004 10:54 AM

#1 what would win in a 1/4 mile Race all 500hp cars and driver 160lbs



gimme in order who would win



1st, 2nd, 3rd gen rx7's, wrx, porsche 911, corvette, supra,



#2 now how about top speed at 2miles who will complete it at top speed and finish



#3 now how about oval track

Midnightdriver 04-22-2004 11:16 AM

hard call, would depend on the driver but the 911 would most likley be on top in the 2 mile run and oval

9BASE3 04-22-2004 11:50 AM

A 500 hp RX7 will destroy all of those cars in straight line acceleration. As far as the top speed 2 mile.. It's really hard to tell the FD is geared to ~200mph and at 500 hp I'm nearly sure it could come close to that.. Not sure about the other cars.. Why is this in the kills section anyway?

Midnightdriver 04-22-2004 12:44 PM

I know 911's will hit that I just watched a show that had them in it with that much power and they were hitting 200.

Dysfnctnl85 04-22-2004 01:36 PM

I'd say the FB would win in the acceleration category...2300lbs + 500HP = death on wheels.



I'm not sure how they would handle...I'm sure the 911 or the FD would outhandle the rest simply because of the amount of R & D they have on the other cars.

rowtareh 04-22-2004 04:12 PM

Matters what has been to the suspension, driveline?





It is really hard to say just based on horsepower numbers. What is the point of this topic?

Fd3BOOST 04-22-2004 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by RowTarEh?' date='Apr 22 2004, 01:12 PM
Matters what has been to the suspension, driveline?





It is really hard to say just based on horsepower numbers. What is the point of this topic?

You talk like you know how it would matter, Lol

FiKsE l2X SeVeN Jr 04-22-2004 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by Dysfnctnl85' date='Apr 22 2004, 10:36 AM
I'd say the FB would win in the acceleration category...2300lbs + 500HP = death on wheels.



I'm not sure how they would handle...I'm sure the 911 or the FD would outhandle the rest simply because of the amount of R & D they have on the other cars.

i agree

FikseRxSeven 04-22-2004 08:43 PM

vette would win........ cuz it can have 500hp but also have 520lbs of turque

Dysfnctnl85 04-22-2004 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by FikseRxSeven' date='Apr 22 2004, 09:43 PM
vette would win........ cuz it can have 500hp but also have 520lbs of turque

Vette is heavier than the 1st and 3rd gen RX-7s.



It's all about power-weight ratio.

RotaryXSevn 04-22-2004 09:54 PM

GO FB!

RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ 04-22-2004 10:40 PM

the vett is also heavier than a second gen

Jims5543 04-23-2004 08:12 AM

Bacon!

mazdadrifter 04-23-2004 08:26 AM

with the right turbo an rx7 can have 500 ft lbs of torque too jims car put down 320hp and 318 ft/lbs. But to pull gears to 200 mph you need that torque up high as well, which a rotary or a turbocharged porche will have.



I'm thinking the 1st gen would win the 1/4 mile providing it doesn't have stock rear tires.



Either the porsche or the 2nd gen for top speed, same for oval with the 3rd gen in there too.



Road course fd with a competant driver.

Jims5543 04-23-2004 10:20 AM

The Corvette would win everything.





To Quote a Member of Automotive Forums This is his Sig Just substitute Mustang for any of the other cars listed above:






A Mustang cannot beat an LS1. Simply cannot happen. Please refer to this guide if you're a Mustang owner that thinks you may have beaten an LS1.



#1 The LS1 cannot be beaten.

#2 All Mustangs are stock.

#3 All LS1s run mid/high 12s bone stock from the factory.

#4 Even the 03 Cobra is a mid 13 car.

#5 The LS1 was not racing.

#6 The LS1 was parked.

#7 The LS1 was just playing with you.

#8 The LS1 was actually a V-6 with Z28 badges.

#9 The LS1 was actually an LT1, which can only be beaten by an LS1.

#10 The race does not count because it ended before 160mph.

#11 The race does not count because it did not start from a roll.

#12 The race does not count because the LS1's passenger was performing oral on the driver.

#13 The race does not count because the LS1 was not properly tuned.

#14 If you still feel your Mustang may have beaten an LS1, please see #1.

Credited:Unit

ColinRX7 04-23-2004 10:47 AM

You can't ask who would win if they were all 500 hp. What about gear ratios? Suspension? Torque number? All these things matter.



It's like asking who would win in an eating contest if everyone was 13 years old. How fat are these kids? What are they eating?

mazdadrifter 04-23-2004 11:53 AM

2nd gen would win eating contest



and some of them are 13 yo

f.t.p. rotaryrocket 04-23-2004 12:57 PM

Quoted From Corvette Specialist friend of mine named matt.





pillowmeto: the Z06 has run 11.75 stock on stock tires

pillowmeto: 911, then vette, then the Rx7s and the supra will be all the way in the back

pillowmeto: cause a 500hp supra has about 250ft/lbs

pillowmeto: of torque

pillowmeto: the wrx would win out of the hole, it woudl be ahead in the first 50 feet

lxk199 04-24-2004 06:59 PM

lol....500hp supra with 250 tq...what a loser that guy is. does he know anything about the 2jz? (or even the 1jz or 7mgte for that matter)

Dysfnctnl85 04-24-2004 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ' date='Apr 22 2004, 11:40 PM
the vett is also heavier than a second gen

I wasn't sure about FC weight so I didn't include it. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png



I still think the FB would own.

rx7_dren 04-26-2004 09:17 AM

i say the 1st generation will win But ****** colin wants to get technical so in this case the corvette will win because we forgot to put a transmission to handle 500hp on the 1st generation happy fat **** that lives on the net

CGeek2k 04-26-2004 01:24 PM

What about 'how difficult is it to get each of these cars to 500hp?'

rfreeman27 04-26-2004 06:01 PM

This is dumb. Just saying "if a car has 500 HP which will win"



Most 400rwhp RX-7's (at least FD's) are putting down acceleration numbers close to very very very fast cars.



In drag form, I will be able to put down 1/4 miles just as good (if not better) as the enzo. Something to think about.

Eyxom 04-27-2004 02:24 AM

Dragon Motor Sports has an FD with the same motor setup I do, with a nice T-78 and other various turbo goodies. On 17 psi he ran an 11.4 UNTUNED with a dyno of 480whp. Tuned, I would estimate him run 11.2 or less with 495whp+.



Here are his mods:



17psi

Street Port

Greddy ball bearing T-78

Greddy 2-row FMIC

Greddy E-manage/E-01

Greddy Exhaust Manifold

Greddy Type-S BOV (2)

Ported & Polished Intake Manifolds

Full turbo-back 3" exhaust

HKS Fuel pump

Larger secondaries (Not sure what size)

Custom built Fluidyne radiator

TKT Pulleys

3mm racing Apex Seals

9.5" wide rear tires (I think)



I think he's using a Pettit ECU. I'm really not sure though.

9BASE3 04-28-2004 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by f.t.p. rotaryrocket' date='Apr 23 2004, 11:57 AM
Quoted From Corvette Specialist friend of mine named matt.





pillowmeto: the Z06 has run 11.75 stock on stock tires

pillowmeto: 911, then vette, then the Rx7s and the supra will be all the way in the back

pillowmeto: cause a 500hp supra has about 250ft/lbs

pillowmeto: of torque

pillowmeto: the wrx would win out of the hole, it woudl be ahead in the first 50 feet

Slap your friend.

Leetheslacker 04-28-2004 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by 9BASE3' date='Apr 28 2004, 02:06 PM
Slap your friend.

hard.

4RotorRocket 04-28-2004 03:01 PM

really hard https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

l8t apex 04-28-2004 03:06 PM

my FB got squirly above 125..........maybe I should've put the sun roof in.

But then my fargin eardrums would colaps!

f.t.p. rotaryrocket 04-30-2004 10:19 AM

he was being sarcastic about the supra jsut cause he doesn't like them. and yes he knows about hte 2jz-gte. 3.0 I-6 with twin sequential turbos putting out a 326 hp and 300 lbs of torque. I'm an import purist he's a v8 purist. he just doesn likt how an 800 hp supra puts down 690 lbs of torque when his motor puts out number more equivalent to each other. i just laughed at his sarcasm about the supra.

p.s. he really hated fast and the furious.

FiKsE l2X SeVeN Jr 04-30-2004 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Leetheslacker' date='Apr 28 2004, 11:58 AM
hard.

with a closed fist and a big ring

f.t.p. rotaryrocket 04-30-2004 11:42 AM

rofl i get kick out of you guys. one thing i appreciate about us rotary drivers

Authentic 05-14-2004 08:57 AM

1. Rx7- If its geared for the 1/4 no DOUBT. 10 second run potential.

2. Corvette -Best powerband, if its a z06 it will be on the 7s ass (running 10.80 or so)

3.Supra- It will get going after the 1/8 and run 12s LMAO

4. REgular WRX- Out of its class.




Dragon Motor Sports has an FD with the same motor setup I do, with a nice T-78 and other various turbo goodies. On 17 psi he ran an 11.4 UNTUNED with a dyno of 480whp
Shouldn't he be making more power?



i've seen 450rwhp camaros run 11s weighing 3600 pounds. Broad powerband /solid rear axle.


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