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https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif Ok this is actually very reverse from how this post should go. A kid in my genereal area has an 87 N/a. We lined up and he spanked my ass by two cars off the dig. I didn't start to gain ground until I hit mid RPM's in 3rd gear. This can't be happening to me! I mean granted he has 110,XXX less miles than me. PM me or anything with some suggestions. I know in all reality I should smoke this kid.....BAD. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif Urghh! HELP!!!!
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was his n/a stock? how bout yur TII?
time to rebuild that engine. you must have over 110k on it and hate to break it to ya but youve well past the optimum life of a 13bt. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif |
Originally Posted by RotaryVillain' post='851181' date='Jan 2 2007, 11:48 AM
was his n/a stock? how bout yur TII? time to rebuild that engine. you must have over 110k on it and hate to break it to ya but youve well past the optimum life of a 13bt. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif Both cars are stock and my car has 146,000 on it. I'm just afraid to tear into this engine at the moment.....I don't have the money or time to do it. What do you think is the cheapest/most reliable reman engine that doesn't require much work my part. |
https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.gif here's what you need http://racingbeat.com/FRmazda2.htm add intake and full exhaust from racing beat (dpipe back) will add you over 60 whp (racing beat has dyno tested everything)
you will FLY past that n/a https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif in regards to engine. your best/cheapest route is to keep your eye peeled on this forum and ebay for "low mileage" "rebuilt takeouts" from either wrecked cars or cars receiving swaps (20b or v8) unfortunately many rx7 owners seem to wreck their cars right after installing a new engine (many times they still have ALL paperwork cuz they're so new!) other times people go 20b or such . many times you can find somebody selling a nice (atkins,rx7.com, etc...) rebuilt engine for less than HALF the "off the shelf" price.- |
Originally Posted by RotaryVillain' post='851185' date='Jan 2 2007, 12:10 PM
https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.gif here's what you need http://racingbeat.com/FRmazda2.htm add intake and full exhaust from racing beat (dpipe back) will add you over 60 whp (racing beat has dyno tested everything) you will FLY past that n/a https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif in regards to engine. your best/cheapest route is to keep your eye peeled on this forum and ebay for "low mileage" "rebuilt takeouts" from either wrecked cars or cars receiving swaps (20b or v8) unfortunately many rx7 owners seem to wreck their cars right after installing a new engine (many times they still have ALL paperwork cuz they're so new!) other times people go 20b or such . many times you can find somebody selling a nice (atkins,rx7.com, etc...) rebuilt engine for less than HALF the "off the shelf" price.- I was just looking on Ebay and I've found about 3 of the low mileage reman engines. The price is right around $1,399 with tranny,wiring harness,ecu,turbo,intake manifold,exhaust manifold....you know everything. I didn't know if that was a better deal than what CORKSPORT offers for $200 cheaper. All I know is that I'm just gonna start a "Rx Retalliation Fund" |
make sure you DONT get a jdm engine (unless you PLAN on Definetly rebuilding it) those can be VERY hit & miss as far as quality and their warranties are generally bs.
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Originally Posted by RotaryVillain' post='851211' date='Jan 2 2007, 02:42 PM
make sure you DONT get a jdm engine (unless you PLAN on Definetly rebuilding it) those can be VERY hit & miss as far as quality and their warranties are generally bs. OK....no JDM engines then. haha Well there goes my cheap route(if there is such a thing). I hate to think of ordering an engine from ebay, but I guess it'll be my best bet,eh? |
146K on a T2 is not far beyond the life of a 13bt... we dyno'd 244whp on a T2 13bt block with 165K miles on it.. it just has to be maintained...
Do you have anything at ALL done to the car? gauges or anything? I'm just curious... if your car is all original, you can regain some lost power by running through and replacing the vac lines w/ silicon hoses, clean the injectors, check your turbo ..... does it have shaft play? how does the turbo inlet duct look? etc... dont waste money on big things until you check all the little things first... a cracked TID and bad vac lines can result in piss poor boost and power curves, etc... DO A TUNE UP, lol.. a stock T2 should beat a stock NA car when they are both original.. you dont need an upgraded exhaust to beat it.. unless your cats are clogged, lol.. that'll ruin your power too... check everything first! You can beat him.. unless he's a lot lighter and a better driver, lol... |
oh and yes, stay away from JDM and used engines, waste of money and time.. when your engine needs to be replaced, put a new one it.. trust me...
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Originally Posted by One320B' post='851633' date='Jan 4 2007, 07:48 PM
146K on a T2 is not far beyond the life of a 13bt... we dyno'd 244whp on a T2 13bt block with 165K miles on it.. it just has to be maintained... Do you have anything at ALL done to the car? gauges or anything? I'm just curious... if your car is all original, you can regain some lost power by running through and replacing the vac lines w/ silicon hoses, clean the injectors, check your turbo ..... does it have shaft play? how does the turbo inlet duct look? etc... dont waste money on big things until you check all the little things first... a cracked TID and bad vac lines can result in piss poor boost and power curves, etc... DO A TUNE UP, lol.. a stock T2 should beat a stock NA car when they are both original.. you dont need an upgraded exhaust to beat it.. unless your cats are clogged, lol.. that'll ruin your power too... check everything first! You can beat him.. unless he's a lot lighter and a better driver, lol... I have not done a thing performance-wise. I do have an oil leak though(loses a quart or so about every 1000 miles). That is the only thing I see that is of major importance. I would really like to get it on a lift to see where the leak is coming from. The car is almost impossible to get to idle under 1500 RPM and it doesn't like to start hot. Oh and by the way...I really appreciate everyones input! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/bowdown.gif I'd really love to find someone near me that knows something about rotary's....ya know someone to talk to when I get stuck on stuff. If you guys have a hint as to where these OHIO rotards are......LET ME KNOW! |
teknics did the same thing to me in his n/a while i was driving my tII that bastard lol
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I have family in the akron/medina area, but i'm only up there once a year or so, lol...
It sounds like your motor may already be cooked man... its got decent mileage on it... but if it wasnt maintained by the original owner, there is no amount of care you could have done to keep it running to 200K! Hot start issues, bad or no idle are all signs of low compression in a motor... |
Originally Posted by One320B' post='852075' date='Jan 7 2007, 01:19 PM
I have family in the akron/medina area, but i'm only up there once a year or so, lol... It sounds like your motor may already be cooked man... its got decent mileage on it... but if it wasnt maintained by the original owner, there is no amount of care you could have done to keep it running to 200K! Hot start issues, bad or no idle are all signs of low compression in a motor... Could I refresh the engine by replacing seals and such as well as apex seals? How involved would it be? |
it would mean ud have o rebuild the whole motor
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Originally Posted by jwteknix' post='852159' date='Jan 7 2007, 07:31 PM
it would mean ud have o rebuild the whole motor I'd just kinda like to keep the car as original as possible since it is an AE. I just need the money to get the stuff it needs done. |
8.5:1 compression, 28lb flywheel, 24lb wheels, only 188hp to start with, and then to boot, 110k or whatever you said miles on engine
hell yeah its way slow, trust me. stock s4 t2s are slow as hell, heaviest wheels on an fc, heaviest flywheel on an fc, lowest compression on an fc, and then an old worn motor to boot. turbo lag can trick you into thinking its kinda quick https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif rebuild the motor, get an FCD and a downpipe or a rtek and full exhaust or something. both intake and exhaust on these cars are HUGELY restricted and you will assrape him w/ full intake/exhaust even on stock boost (although it will boostcreep) cause stock s4 wastegate blows chunks. so have some fuel and something to get rid of fuel cut, rtek and s-afc or something |
if you want to keep the car original, and get some power.
rebuild your engine, clean fuel injectors, replace fuel pulsation dampener, get a downpipe, wrap it w/ heat tape or ceramic coat it, and get a fcd and a new air filter. it would really help a TON to get a light weight steel flywheel too so yeah, rebuild motor, downpipe, lightweight flywheel, and just freshen up some stuff and go over the fuel system to make sure it all works and get rid of fuel cut thats how to fix a worn out stock s4 t2 and oh yeah, get some konis and racing beat springs https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif still pretty stock, but really wakes the car up a ton |
u and ur buddy drive down here and u can use my 10ae or my 1st gen and beat him haha
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Originally Posted by jdm12a' post='852216' date='Jan 8 2007, 08:25 AM
u and ur buddy drive down here and u can use my 10ae or my 1st gen and beat him haha Haha....I might wanna use the first GEN. It'd bring me back to the days of my 85' GS. Now that was a fun car!!!!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif |
Originally Posted by steitzybear' post='852563' date='Jan 10 2007, 06:40 AM
Haha....I might wanna use the first GEN. It'd bring me back to the days of my 85' GS. Now that was a fun car!!!!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif well then this car would make u nastalgic cuz its an 85 gs lol. its charcoal, or brown or grey, idk its a different color depending on who u ask but u know the color, red interior also? and isnt ur second gen a 10ae too? cuz i have one of those, maybe were long lost rotary brothers? |
Originally Posted by jdm12a' post='852593' date='Jan 10 2007, 12:39 PM
well then this car would make u nastalgic cuz its an 85 gs lol. its charcoal, or brown or grey, idk its a different color depending on who u ask but u know the color, red interior also? and isnt ur second gen a 10ae too? cuz i have one of those, maybe were long lost rotary brothers? I think we are too....MORE THAN YOU KNOW. My 85 was that exact color scheme! And yes my 88 is a 10AE. I'm really trying to re-do this car tho. I just can't really come up with all of the money that I need.Ughh...it blows. |
Originally Posted by steitzybear' post='853412' date='Jan 15 2007, 06:31 PM
I think we are too....MORE THAN YOU KNOW. My 85 was that exact color scheme! And yes my 88 is a 10AE. I'm really trying to re-do this car tho. I just can't really come up with all of the money that I need.Ughh...it blows. haha thats funny, what kind of guy did u sell ur car too? i know its a long shot but when did u sell it and how many miles were on it? i highly doubt its the same one, but maybe. and thats what im tryin to do with my 10ae now too. i went and bought a motor and tranny 2 weeks ago and the wiring harness was ruined that came with it so i have to buy another one of those and now the tranny is fucked up too, and prolly gonna have to buy another tranny as well |
Originally Posted by jdm12a' post='853437' date='Jan 16 2007, 12:25 AM
haha thats funny, what kind of guy did u sell ur car too? i know its a long shot but when did u sell it and how many miles were on it? i highly doubt its the same one, but maybe. and thats what im tryin to do with my 10ae now too. i went and bought a motor and tranny 2 weeks ago and the wiring harness was ruined that came with it so i have to buy another one of those and now the tranny is fucked up too, and prolly gonna have to buy another tranny as well My 1st gen got totalled in a friends driveway. His mom hit it with a Chevy Tahoe and wondered why she stopped....so she hit the ****** gas. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif I'm thinkin I wanna rebuild my AE.....I just don't have $3250 to get the atkins motor that I want. |
steitzy do you ever drive through calcutta? ive only seen like 3 RX7's in the area....and one of them happens to be white haha
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Originally Posted by jesuscoe' post='853520' date='Jan 16 2007, 11:23 AM
steitzy do you ever drive through calcutta? ive only seen like 3 RX7's in the area....and one of them happens to be white haha Nah...Steubenville is more of my stomping grounds! |
ahhh I see..... I probably go there 2 or 3 times a month in the summer...... maybe ill run into ya one day......hope you get your car figured out, thats a nice looking AE..... she should be fast too! good luck man!
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