Clay bars are great and a dishwashing detergent, as you say, will not replace them, nor did I mean to imply it would. I've had to use clay bars to remove overspray before and they are great.

...to add.



I came to know about dish detergent and its uses and applications on automotive paints by three different local body shops, two of whom I know personally. The Zaino quote was just something I found in support of my own argument. I can not say I have ever tried any Zaino products, but would not mind doing so.



Different strokes...

its always good to hear different opinions and expierences https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

master detailer,



have you ever heard of the brand eagle wax



www.eaglewax.com/products/kamikaze/



since im willing to be a guinna pig for these long lasting wax/polymer things..... i would rather go with whatever is the most reputable.



so its between



that and www.5starshine.com

Sorry I havent been on the last few days, blackouts and the fact I just moved into the new house.



I have never heard of either wax, I also am not a fan nor a believer

in these miracle waxes, give one of them a shot and let us know how

it works.

Isn't 5 Star the maker of "Race Glaze?" I have heard good things about that particular product but know nothing of the company or its other offerings.

I've read that using diswashing detergents and the like is an ultimate no-no on car finishes. Yes, these things will strip off wax, but it will also strip off essential oils from the paint. A clay bar will strip wax just fine for me. Besides, I think they actually sell cleaners that can strip wax "safely."

Zaino is amazing. My dad uses it on his vette and his friend uses it. it looks wet and the paint doesnt have an orange peel tecture. its crazy

I've used Xymol Cleaner wax, and its fine for one-step approach. I get mine at a wholesale warehouse, so its only $5 a bottle, not expensive. The trick to making this work is following the directions on the back of the bottle. My friend tried to apply Xymol like a regular wax, and his finish was f*cked up. However, when you follow the directions, it turns out good. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



I do like mothers carnuba and the meguires gold class carnuba wax. I prefer carnubas over synthetics. Yeah, they are a little harder to work with, but they are much clearer and glossier.