The paint doesn't freggin match!!
https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif I dont know what else I could have done. I took the paint shop a bumper so they could match it up with the electronic scan thing. I'm really at a loss for words. Any suggestions? |
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Hmm.. Not really that bad if you ask me. Took a few looks to even notice! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png
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You want a bad match?
LOOK AT MY ******* BUMPER!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png Pay special attention to the seam at the driver fender... http://www.davincimotorworks.com/images/FRONT1.JPG |
Looks good from here. Yes it's a bit lighter then the body, but I'm sure there are ways to make it darker. Some sort of wax or something.
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it doesn't look that bad..... if you see martin's bumper and the rest of the car... that is obvious
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I just spoke with the paint shop manager. He seems to be accomadating. Tells me once the car is back together drive it over and they will remix the 2 quarts I have left. I will also basically demand that they also give me the corrected color two quarts that I have already used. OK so everyone can have a good laugh at my multi-colored car at Rotorfest. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blush.png
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Wow, i guess this is sorta common. Unfortunately I am one picky mofo. I will keep at it until its right.
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It really isn't that bad.
9BASE3: That's a sexy engine bay. God damn! |
Next time I am painting the whole ******* car black.
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Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Jun 15 2004, 11:24 AM
Next time I am painting the whole ******* car black.
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i noticed it....but thats because i detail cars for spare cash and am absolutely obsessed with paint https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.p...38121 Theres a thread for you about "spit-shining your car" (basically layering wax but not removing previous coats) that technique might help bring a deeper shine to the lighter hood and even it out. It'll take a while, but start on a corner and see if it helps https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif
-Zach |
Thanks Zach. I am wondering, how much would the primer I use effect the tint? I used a traditional sand and fill grey. If I had used black would the color be deeper?
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Are you having the bumper and fenders resprayed or the hood, cuz the hood looks faded, new color looks ALOT better.
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the hood was painted to match the rest of the car, and it turned out lighter.
Fd3BOOST, im not too sure how much the primer affects the paint. Normally primer coats are grey, so id imagine the rest of your car's primer is grey as well, leaving the paint matching to be the culprit. |
Yea that was my assumption as well. I was only curious.
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I had a problem with mikes bumper when I sprayed it, it was
grey primer from wherever he got it from, I put 4 coats of red base on it, just like I did the touch ups on the fenders. When I went to bolt it all up the bumper didnt match the car with the grey primer it was hard to tell whenthe red had total coverage so it cast a dark hue on the red. I had to sand and put more paint on it, then it was ok. Lessons are always being learned, I would quit what I was doing if I didnt look to learn something everyday. You have to realize paint is mixed by people and prone to variations. The application methods can also change the shade Now you see why most shops wont spray panels without blending into the other panels, its VERY hard to match it that way |
Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Jun 15 2004, 12:18 PM
I just spoke with the paint shop manager. He seems to be accomadating. Tells me once the car is back together drive it over and they will remix the 2 quarts I have left. I will also basically demand that they also give me the corrected color two quarts that I have already used. OK so everyone can have a good laugh at my multi-colored car at Rotorfest. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blush.png
responsible for the color match and to test it before applying to insure the color |
Originally Posted by boostdfd3s' date='Jun 15 2004, 02:12 PM
i noticed it....but thats because i detail cars for spare cash and am absolutely obsessed with paint https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.p...38121 Theres a thread for you about "spit-shining your car" (basically layering wax but not removing previous coats) that technique might help bring a deeper shine to the lighter hood and even it out. It'll take a while, but start on a corner and see if it helps https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif
-Zach so it must be true https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif |
Well the link is to Autopia, a forum for rich bastards who have OCD about their paint and the time to detail their cars weekly....so i believe it to be true, but your mileage may vary. And wax will layer itself, the process just depends on the type of wax and the surface its being adhered to.
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the guy waxes the car everyday for how many days and its NOT
supposed to look good? He also states how its best not to wash the car, which I would also say he means not to put it outside. If thats the case then he should just be glazing the car and forget the wax, on a properly prepared surface wax does NOTHING for gloss enhancement. When you properly compound and glaze a car in the correct steps you will see that a coat of wax usually dulls things a bit. Now if all your doing is waxing, then of course it will appear to be a better shine. Try glazing the car everyday, it will look much better then waxing daily |
Or hell, just repaint the damn thing every weekend. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png
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to each his own, lol. At least the paint shop is working with you dave
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I guess if your silly enough to wax the same car everyday
your a bit screwy in the head, lol |
I've had my bumper repainted 3 times by the same body shop that painted my car, and the color is off. You really need to have it blended with the hood and fenders.
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Well I could do that I suppose if it came down to it. What would you suggest I do next Rob? The paint itself looks dead on if you look straight down at it but from angles it is obvioulsy lighter. I know that there is no guarentee that anyone thing will cure this. I am just looking for advice.
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I don't really notice the difference Dave. I guess you just have to see it in person. I think people will notice the FMIC and single turbo more, but you are a very picky guy.
Get the spooler in yet? |
next step would be to blend the color into the fenders and bumper
and clear it all, key being not to spray color near the doors |
Had my buddy/employee point out to me that I did mix the paint with alot of thinner on the last pass to get the pearl/mica stuff to flow out real nice and not have any tiger stripes. Think that would have been enough to lighten it?
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Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Jun 16 2004, 10:54 PM
Had my buddy/employee point out to me that I did mix the paint with alot of thinner on teh last pass to get the pearl/mica stuff to flow out real nice and not have any tiger stripes. Think that would have been enough to lighten it?
have caused a color change. keep in mind the paint itself might be a tiny bit different from whats on the car, someone might have put in a bit too much of a tint either this time or the 1st time |
Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Jun 16 2004, 06:56 PM
that goes back to where I said the application technique could
have caused a color change. keep in mind the paint itself might be a tiny bit different from whats on the car, someone might have put in a bit too much of a tint either this time or the 1st time |
that might not be the problem, after all those coats of base
your problem may not be the thinned last coat. Take a piece of 2" tape or any masking and hardline a place on the hood , spray some basecoat on there, let it flash then spray some clear with no activator in it or you can even try pouring some prep sol or similar product over the fresh flashed over basecoat and not use the clear. take the tape off and see if the color is the same as the rest of the hood, its best to do a square in the middle of a large enough area so you can tell. If its the same then the color is wrong, if its different then its the application, it will give you a better idea, you can also try this on one of the fenders, just watch what chemicals you use on the paint that you know your not going to paint again so you dont damage anything |
Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Jun 17 2004, 03:03 AM
that might not be the problem, after all those coats of base
your problem may not be the thinned last coat. Take a piece of 2" tape or any masking and hardline a place on the hood , spray some basecoat on there, let it flash then spray some clear with no activator in it or you can even try pouring some prep sol or similar product over the fresh flashed over basecoat and not use the clear. take the tape off and see if the color is the same as the rest of the hood, its best to do a square in the middle of a large enough area so you can tell. If its the same then the color is wrong, if its different then its the application, it will give you a better idea, you can also try this on one of the fenders, just watch what chemicals you use on the paint that you know your not going to paint again so you dont damage anything Meaning dry? Anyway thanks and I will give that a go and see what happens. |
flash- dry
you always want the paint to flash before applying more, especially basecoat or else it will never "dry" with mettalic basecoat if it doesnt flash the mettalics will mottle aka float, blotch the point of putting the clear or prep sol on there is so it gives the whole area a nice gloss |
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