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Turbo II 07-19-2002 12:14 PM

has anyone tried this? the carbon fiber tape u buy from3M? If sopost pics please. I dont have the moneyforrealcarbonfiber yetso i was thinkinggoing the cheap route and doing that pic. Post pics if u have real carbon fiber or fake. Thanks Ryan

phinsup 07-19-2002 12:19 PM

Where are you going to put it?

Turbo II 07-19-2002 12:22 PM

not everywhere. stereo panel, interior door handles, etc. little things

phinsup 07-19-2002 12:25 PM

My concern wouldn't be what it looks like now, but what is looks like after being installed for 5 months.

Shane.Trammell 07-19-2002 12:30 PM

look on ebay

UniqueTII 07-19-2002 12:39 PM

Put it on your spacebar. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



If you put it anywhere that gets hot a lot (dash, center console) the adhesive might start to come off.

Shane.Trammell 07-19-2002 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by UniqueTII' date='Jul 19 2002, 10:39 AM
Put it on your spacebar. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



If you put it anywhere that gets hot a lot (dash, center console) the adhesive might start to come off.

that would suck

Turbo II 07-19-2002 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by UniqueTII' date='Jul 19 2002, 12:39 PM
Put it on your spacebar. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



If you put it anywhere that gets hot a lot (dash, center console) the adhesive might start to come off.

spacebar? of my keyboard. well forget it. ill just wait until my tax return and buy the real thing then. or I cana third job and buy the kit and everything else i need sooner

Turbo II 07-19-2002 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by UniqueTII' date='Jul 19 2002, 12:39 PM
Put it on your spacebar. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



If you put it anywhere that gets hot a lot (dash, center console) the adhesive might start to come off.

oic now. yeah my spacebar sucks. my boss is too cheap to buy me a new keyboard. so i gotta deal with it

Shane.Trammell 07-19-2002 12:50 PM

so you found a real carbon kit for the 2nd gen??

Turbo II 07-19-2002 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' date='Jul 19 2002, 12:50 PM
so you found a real carbon kit for the 2nd gen??

you can always have it custom made. i got a couple friends who own their own shops and they'd be able toget it for me. Just let me know.

Rob x-7 07-19-2002 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Turbo II' date='Jul 19 2002, 01:22 PM
not everywhere. stereo panel, interior door handles, etc. little things

You mean the stereo surround??? How are you going to make it stick for one, then conform to the shape and what not?- by putting cuts in the film? Think Im going to have to sound the rice alarm on this one? Its going to look like checkerboard tape in my opinion. I dont even see the attraction with carbon fiber anyhow?

Rob x-7 07-19-2002 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' date='Jul 19 2002, 01:50 PM
so you found a real carbon kit for the 2nd gen??

REAL CARBON FIBER.. you wouldnt want a inferior kit to replace that plastic that doesnt weight anything on the dash, lol

Turbo II 07-22-2002 02:22 PM

would just look nice.

Rob x-7 07-24-2002 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by Turbo II' date='Jul 22 2002, 03:22 PM
would just look nice.

You can get that tape from Summit by the way, got the new catalog the other day, and there it was.

Fastrotaries 08-22-2002 12:57 AM

take a look http://mazdaspeed7.mazdasource.com/index.htm

Rob x-7 08-22-2002 05:47 PM

So the guy is selling flat panels of CF, big deal I thought he had made a kit to replace allllll the plastic!

89 Rag 08-22-2002 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Jul 19 2002, 06:31 PM
[quote name='Turbo II' date='Jul 19 2002, 01:22 PM']not everywhere. stereo panel, interior door handles, etc. little things

You mean the stereo surround??? How are you going to make it stick for one, then conform to the shape and what not?- by putting cuts in the film? Think Im going to have to sound the rice alarm on this one? Its going to look like checkerboard tape in my opinion. I dont even see the attraction with carbon fiber anyhow?[/quote]

Just prep and paint the interior parts to match existing colors. Once you get the surface smooth and apply the finish its comes out looking sharp

Ill post some pics soon if you're interested.



J

Rob x-7 08-22-2002 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by 89 Rag' date='Aug 22 2002, 07:13 PM
[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jul 19 2002, 06:31 PM'][quote name='Turbo II' date='Jul 19 2002, 01:22 PM']not everywhere. stereo panel, interior door handles, etc. little things

You mean the stereo surround??? How are you going to make it stick for one, then conform to the shape and what not?- by putting cuts in the film? Think Im going to have to sound the rice alarm on this one? Its going to look like checkerboard tape in my opinion. I dont even see the attraction with carbon fiber anyhow?[/quote]

Just prep and paint the interior parts to match existing colors. Once you get the surface smooth and apply the finish its comes out looking sharp

Ill post some pics soon if you're interested.



J[/quote]

You mean like this?

89 Rag 08-22-2002 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Aug 22 2002, 05:51 PM
[quote name='89 Rag' date='Aug 22 2002, 07:13 PM'][quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jul 19 2002, 06:31 PM'][quote name='Turbo II' date='Jul 19 2002, 01:22 PM']not everywhere. stereo panel, interior door handles, etc. little things

You mean the stereo surround??? How are you going to make it stick for one, then conform to the shape and what not?- by putting cuts in the film? Think Im going to have to sound the rice alarm on this one? Its going to look like checkerboard tape in my opinion. I dont even see the attraction with carbon fiber anyhow?[/quote]

Just prep and paint the interior parts to match existing colors. Once you get the surface smooth and apply the finish its comes out looking sharp

Ill post some pics soon if you're interested.



J[/quote]

You mean like this?[/quote]

Hell yes. Exactly like that, although im no longer a self titled "pioneer" of the smoothed out interior trim, that is exactly what im talking about. I've done a little more than just the center console and shift boot retainer, I hope i wont be sorry.



It will, however, look far better than some carbon fiber sticky rice ****, Ive done enough rice w/ my wing https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



How is it holding up? I hear you dont drive much. Is it automotive finish

or other?

Rob x-7 08-22-2002 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by 89 Rag' date='Aug 22 2002, 07:58 PM
[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Aug 22 2002, 05:51 PM'][quote name='89 Rag' date='Aug 22 2002, 07:13 PM'][quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jul 19 2002, 06:31 PM'][quote name='Turbo II' date='Jul 19 2002, 01:22 PM']not everywhere. stereo panel, interior door handles, etc. little things

You mean the stereo surround??? How are you going to make it stick for one, then conform to the shape and what not?- by putting cuts in the film? Think Im going to have to sound the rice alarm on this one? Its going to look like checkerboard tape in my opinion. I dont even see the attraction with carbon fiber anyhow?[/quote]

Just prep and paint the interior parts to match existing colors. Once you get the surface smooth and apply the finish its comes out looking sharp

Ill post some pics soon if you're interested.



J[/quote]

You mean like this?[/quote]

Hell yes. Exactly like that, although im no longer a self titled "pioneer" of the smoothed out interior trim, that is exactly what im talking about. I've done a little more than just the center console and shift boot retainer, I hope i wont be sorry.



It will, however, look far better than some carbon fiber sticky rice ****, Ive done enough rice w/ my wing https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



How is it holding up? I hear you dont drive much. Is it automotive finish

or other?[/quote]

Its holding up great, considering its black and it sits in the sun. Doesnt matter if the car isnt driven alot, it sits in the sun, which it would do no matter what. Its AwlGrip Epoxy primer with DuPont Imron over it, so its not really a automotive finish, more along the lines of a industrial finish- boats, tractor trailers, airplanes, etc.. It is smooth as glass and looks like the day I sprayed it, still looks like its wet paint. My surround was cracked anyhow and my shifter surround was coming apart as well, the pins for the boot broke off a long time ago, now its alllllll good.

89 Rag 08-22-2002 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Aug 22 2002, 06:32 PM
[quote name='89 Rag' date='Aug 22 2002, 07:58 PM'][quote name='Rob x-7' date='Aug 22 2002, 05:51 PM'][quote name='89 Rag' date='Aug 22 2002, 07:13 PM'][quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jul 19 2002, 06:31 PM'][quote name='Turbo II' date='Jul 19 2002, 01:22 PM']not everywhere. stereo panel, interior door handles, etc. little things

You mean the stereo surround??? How are you going to make it stick for one, then conform to the shape and what not?- by putting cuts in the film? Think Im going to have to sound the rice alarm on this one? Its going to look like checkerboard tape in my opinion. I dont even see the attraction with carbon fiber anyhow?[/quote]

Just prep and paint the interior parts to match existing colors. Once you get the surface smooth and apply the finish its comes out looking sharp

Ill post some pics soon if you're interested.



J[/quote]

You mean like this?[/quote]

Hell yes. Exactly like that, although im no longer a self titled "pioneer" of the smoothed out interior trim, that is exactly what im talking about. I've done a little more than just the center console and shift boot retainer, I hope i wont be sorry.



It will, however, look far better than some carbon fiber sticky rice ****, Ive done enough rice w/ my wing https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



How is it holding up? I hear you dont drive much. Is it automotive finish

or other?[/quote]

Its holding up great, considering its black and it sits in the sun. Doesnt matter if the car isnt driven alot, it sits in the sun, which it would do no matter what. Its AwlGrip Epoxy primer with DuPont Imron over it, so its not really a automotive finish, more along the lines of a industrial finish- boats, tractor trailers, airplanes, etc.. It is smooth as glass and looks like the day I sprayed it, still looks like its wet paint. My surround was cracked anyhow and my shifter surround was coming apart as well, the pins for the boot broke off a long time ago, now its alllllll good.[/quote]

Imron is nice ****, kinda spendy, but well worth it. So the awlgrip was done like a build coat? I sanded my parts first, got most of the texture out, then went to a few coats of primer with guides in between. I used a flex additive as well, do you think it was unnecessary?

Rob x-7 08-22-2002 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by 89 Rag' date='Aug 22 2002, 08:44 PM
[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Aug 22 2002, 06:32 PM'][quote name='89 Rag' date='Aug 22 2002, 07:58 PM'][quote name='Rob x-7' date='Aug 22 2002, 05:51 PM'][quote name='89 Rag' date='Aug 22 2002, 07:13 PM'][quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jul 19 2002, 06:31 PM'][quote name='Turbo II' date='Jul 19 2002, 01:22 PM']not everywhere. stereo panel, interior door handles, etc. little things

You mean the stereo surround??? How are you going to make it stick for one, then conform to the shape and what not?- by putting cuts in the film? Think Im going to have to sound the rice alarm on this one? Its going to look like checkerboard tape in my opinion. I dont even see the attraction with carbon fiber anyhow?[/quote]

Just prep and paint the interior parts to match existing colors. Once you get the surface smooth and apply the finish its comes out looking sharp

Ill post some pics soon if you're interested.



J[/quote]

You mean like this?[/quote]

Hell yes. Exactly like that, although im no longer a self titled "pioneer" of the smoothed out interior trim, that is exactly what im talking about. I've done a little more than just the center console and shift boot retainer, I hope i wont be sorry.



It will, however, look far better than some carbon fiber sticky rice ****, Ive done enough rice w/ my wing https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



How is it holding up? I hear you dont drive much. Is it automotive finish

or other?[/quote]

Its holding up great, considering its black and it sits in the sun. Doesnt matter if the car isnt driven alot, it sits in the sun, which it would do no matter what. Its AwlGrip Epoxy primer with DuPont Imron over it, so its not really a automotive finish, more along the lines of a industrial finish- boats, tractor trailers, airplanes, etc.. It is smooth as glass and looks like the day I sprayed it, still looks like its wet paint. My surround was cracked anyhow and my shifter surround was coming apart as well, the pins for the boot broke off a long time ago, now its alllllll good.[/quote]

Imron is nice ****, kinda spendy, but well worth it. So the awlgrip was done like a build coat? I sanded my parts first, got most of the texture out, then went to a few coats of primer with guides in between. I used a flex additive as well, do you think it was unnecessary?[/quote]

The flex wouldnt hurt I guess if someone happens to hit it, Imron needs no flex so its a great paint for things like this, yes the AwlGrip put some build to it but the key was sanding the texture out to begin with, too much primer is no good. Wet sanded the primer when it cures ( that primer is about $200 or so a gallon ) nice and smooth. I tend to over-do things but I never have any problems, that AwlGrip primer sticks to anything, thats how I do the plexiglass tailights as well. And we buy the Imron on schedule C which is 5% over cost, but it didnt cost me anything for few ounces I used anyhow. The Imron is very scratch resistant as well.

89 Rag 08-22-2002 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Aug 22 2002, 06:52 PM
[quote name='89 Rag' date='Aug 22 2002, 08:44 PM'][quote name='Rob x-7' date='Aug 22 2002, 06:32 PM'][quote name='89 Rag' date='Aug 22 2002, 07:58 PM'][quote name='Rob x-7' date='Aug 22 2002, 05:51 PM'][quote name='89 Rag' date='Aug 22 2002, 07:13 PM'][quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jul 19 2002, 06:31 PM'][quote name='Turbo II' date='Jul 19 2002, 01:22 PM']not everywhere. stereo panel, interior door handles, etc. little things

You mean the stereo surround??? How are you going to make it stick for one, then conform to the shape and what not?- by putting cuts in the film? Think Im going to have to sound the rice alarm on this one? Its going to look like checkerboard tape in my opinion. I dont even see the attraction with carbon fiber anyhow?[/quote]

Just prep and paint the interior parts to match existing colors. Once you get the surface smooth and apply the finish its comes out looking sharp

Ill post some pics soon if you're interested.



J[/quote]

You mean like this?[/quote]

Hell yes. Exactly like that, although im no longer a self titled "pioneer" of the smoothed out interior trim, that is exactly what im talking about. I've done a little more than just the center console and shift boot retainer, I hope i wont be sorry.



It will, however, look far better than some carbon fiber sticky rice ****, Ive done enough rice w/ my wing https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



How is it holding up? I hear you dont drive much. Is it automotive finish

or other?[/quote]

Its holding up great, considering its black and it sits in the sun. Doesnt matter if the car isnt driven alot, it sits in the sun, which it would do no matter what. Its AwlGrip Epoxy primer with DuPont Imron over it, so its not really a automotive finish, more along the lines of a industrial finish- boats, tractor trailers, airplanes, etc.. It is smooth as glass and looks like the day I sprayed it, still looks like its wet paint. My surround was cracked anyhow and my shifter surround was coming apart as well, the pins for the boot broke off a long time ago, now its alllllll good.[/quote]

Imron is nice ****, kinda spendy, but well worth it. So the awlgrip was done like a build coat? I sanded my parts first, got most of the texture out, then went to a few coats of primer with guides in between. I used a flex additive as well, do you think it was unnecessary?[/quote]

The flex wouldnt hurt I guess if someone happens to hit it, Imron needs no flex so its a great paint for things like this, yes the AwlGrip put some build to it but the key was sanding the texture out to begin with, too much primer is no good. Wet sanded the primer when it cures ( that primer is about $200 or so a gallon ) nice and smooth. I tend to over-do things but I never have any problems, that AwlGrip primer sticks to anything, thats how I do the plexiglass tailights as well. And we buy the Imron on schedule C which is 5% over cost, but it didnt cost me anything for few ounces I used anyhow. The Imron is very scratch resistant as well.[/quote]

After payin for three quarts of guards red $200 a gallon seems damned reasonable https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif I didnt go apeshit on the primer, however I was @ an impass on the finish, the Imron was on my mind but I went with a pre voc

acrylic lacquer which as you prob. know touches up well but isnt very durable. I wanted to put on a clear that was similar to Man O War as far as its durability charachteristics, However, I think ill go w/ the Imron, based on your good fortune w/ it. I would rather overkill it than mickey mouse it



Thanks

J

Rob x-7 08-23-2002 04:28 PM

Are you doing this in red or black? And is your surround rubber or plastic?

89 Rag 08-24-2002 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Aug 23 2002, 03:28 PM
Are you doing this in red or black? And is your surround rubber or plastic?

Im matching existing and painting black. The stereo surround is plastic, but the shift boot retainer is a rubber-like compound. The primer I used sticks very well, an epoxy, not Awl Grip, but an epoxy none the less.

Rob x-7 08-26-2002 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by 89 Rag' date='Aug 24 2002, 11:30 PM
[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Aug 23 2002, 03:28 PM']Are you doing this in red or black? And is your surround rubber or plastic?

Im matching existing and painting black. The stereo surround is plastic, but the shift boot retainer is a rubber-like compound. The primer I used sticks very well, an epoxy, not Awl Grip, but an epoxy none the less.[/quote]

I thought 89s had that rubber surround? I would get a plastic set and do them instead of that rubber stuff, besides there are a ton of guys with the plastic who would buy the rubber one off you.

Rob x-7 08-26-2002 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by 89 Rag' date='Aug 24 2002, 11:30 PM
[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Aug 23 2002, 03:28 PM']Are you doing this in red or black? And is your surround rubber or plastic?

Im matching existing and painting black. The stereo surround is plastic, but the shift boot retainer is a rubber-like compound. The primer I used sticks very well, an epoxy, not Awl Grip, but an epoxy none the less.[/quote]

Ive been toying around with that PPG no-sand epoxy for small jobs, I am a DuPont shop, one of my friends shop is PPG, he turned me on to it, nice for small things where I want a touch more build then DuPont VariPrime offers, and dont want to wait overnight for the AwlGrip to dry, for the bare metal its always the VariPrime or the AwlGrip ( the AwlGrip is even military-spec for bvare metal ), but on fiberglass I been trying that PPG ****- good stuff so far, but I always at least run a scuff pad over it before painting to knock down any fuzzies.

89 Rag 08-26-2002 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Aug 26 2002, 08:49 AM
[quote name='89 Rag' date='Aug 24 2002, 11:30 PM'][quote name='Rob x-7' date='Aug 23 2002, 03:28 PM']Are you doing this in red or black? And is your surround rubber or plastic?

Im matching existing and painting black. The stereo surround is plastic, but the shift boot retainer is a rubber-like compound. The primer I used sticks very well, an epoxy, not Awl Grip, but an epoxy none the less.[/quote]

I thought 89s had that rubber surround? I would get a plastic set and do them instead of that rubber stuff, besides there are a ton of guys with the plastic who would buy the rubber one off you.[/quote]

I questioned the plastic surround and rubber retainer when I bought the car. It had 90k on it so im sure someone fucked w/ it, and it also got hit in the driver side front fender, not serious damage but it was easy to spot the shitty fix job someone did on the alum. hood and the shiny new control arm underneath. At any rate I still fixin all the **** thats wrong or that had been mickey moused, so it will be like brand new when im finished. Well, brand new with serious improvements throughout. Ill probably cop the plastic shift boot retainer soon, as I need to repalce the shift boot assy anyway.

89 Rag 08-26-2002 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Aug 26 2002, 08:52 AM
[quote name='89 Rag' date='Aug 24 2002, 11:30 PM'][quote name='Rob x-7' date='Aug 23 2002, 03:28 PM']Are you doing this in red or black? And is your surround rubber or plastic?

Im matching existing and painting black. The stereo surround is plastic, but the shift boot retainer is a rubber-like compound. The primer I used sticks very well, an epoxy, not Awl Grip, but an epoxy none the less.[/quote]

Ive been toying around with that PPG no-sand epoxy for small jobs, I am a DuPont shop, one of my friends shop is PPG, he turned me on to it, nice for small things where I want a touch more build then DuPont VariPrime offers, and dont want to wait overnight for the AwlGrip to dry, for the bare metal its always the VariPrime or the AwlGrip ( the AwlGrip is even military-spec for bvare metal ), but on fiberglass I been trying that PPG ****- good stuff so far, but I always at least run a scuff pad over it before painting to knock down any fuzzies.[/quote]

Im a big fan of DuPont products as well, but usually im stuck using PPG, which isnt necessarily a bad product, just more difficult to work with charachteristics wise. Im usually prone to sand no matter what the product, or some salesman tells me the product is capable of, Its just that im kinda obsessive compulsive when it comes to my projects. I ****** hate mickey mouse bullshit, drives me nuts. Do it once, Do it right! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif


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