LOL, MS can blow me, they suck.

Mine does that to!!! :madgo:

Erm.



What in the world possesed you to open up a millon copies of task manager?



I've been using XP since Beta 1 and never had it do that to me. *shrugs*



I guess if you hate MS so bad you could always just run Linux...*snickers*

snicker on you cause I do run Linux... nopistons.com is on Linux server, nopistons.net is on a linux server, stable-os.com is on a Linux server as well as providesite.com is on a linux server. I alos use it for my home systems... why do you find that funny cause I don't have to reboot everyday. LOL :smilewinkgrin:

No wait I figured out the funny part, I didn't have to pay hundreds of dollars to purchase a sub-par product... that's gotta be it.

I've not rebooted this box in months save for the time I moved it, it's never crashed out on me save for the time I was doing some fairly naughty things with it. (IE running drivers that were not made for it)



I've never rebooted my production server at work, never goes down, never hiccups, never crashes. My test server doesn't even go down all that often and it's running beta code.



Of course, I don't run 2nd rate software by 2nd rate programmers like Netscape. Easily the most crash prone, hard to maintain software I've ever seen in my life. They've got balls to say that Netscape 6 is a release...feels like a beta to me.



What do I get with Linux as far as a real network goes?



- NO managment tools. Zero. None.

- NO support

- NO Directory Services unless I want to pay for NDS from Novell

- NO automated install and repair services for software

- NO decent dev tools.



Plus I get to deal with Unix! OH BOY! I wanted to step back in time to a system that was made in the 1960's.



Win 2k gives so much right out of the box that makes it SO much easier to deal with, manage and control that Linux does not come anywhere close.



IIS 6.0 is faster then Apache btw. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



I like Nopistons.net...but honestly? Coulda had it up and running allready with ASP.NET and it would be faster to boot. That being said, I do like PHP a lot.



This isn't to say that I won't run Linux where it's needed, it's just that in the grand scheme of things it's not good enough for mainstream.



FYI, I'm a network engineer, trainer, programmer in RL and I've dealt with both platforms. The one place MS is blowing everyone out of the water is the dev tools they come with. Visual Studio.NET is SO much better then anything else out there, easily. .NET is a joy to work with.

LOL Internet Insecure Server



Let's put it this way, I live in Redmond, I have had my fill of MS. Linux does have support so you are off base there. Easy isn't always better and usually isn't more powerful.



But I am not going to beat it to death, as Uniz sys admin I have my opinions as do you.

You're an ass I set up nopistons.net... built the server last Friday and was uploading to it on Friday night at 11:00 get your **** strait before you start telling me you could do it better. Faster whatever it's a ******* 700 MHZ box on a DSL connection your ASP isn't going to make DSL faster. Love to see that.



The bitch I had with it was a bad stick of memory, but I know that Ms products detect the stick and eject it from the box automatically so it doesn't cause any issues so you don't have to explain that to me.

PS once the software is installed I can have an HP-UX or a Linux box completely configured in less than 10 minutes... 15 if I have to configure samba.

As a Unix admin you have NIS or DNS but not a hell of a lot else as far as true managment goes. Active Directory allows me easy managment of most any size. NIS is a pain in the arse, worse then the old Domain system from NT which is saying a lot.



I can have 2k running the moment it starts up with no another config needed what so over. Heck, I can tell it what I want it to do and walk off and never worry about it again.



Didn't knock nopistons.net, I like the site and think using PHP Nuke is a good idea makes life easier from and admin standpoint. ASP.NET is faster then PHP all the way around as it's a compiled not interpeted language. Dunno if they are going to set PHP up to be compiled. Didn't say I can do better, but I do think I can get a lot more flex out of ASP.NET then you can with PHP.



Sorry if you thought I was knocking the site, again I like it a lot https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



If you're box finds bad memory and spits it out I wish mine would do the same. About half the time you get nothing but GPF's (OH wait, excuse me, "Illegall Operations") and wonder what's up. At least OS/2 would give a Trap 2 error.



Linux has a MAJOR security breech that was uncovered today. Pity they won't make a huge deal about it and jump up and down and scream.



A lot of IIS security issues are a lack of attention on the admins parts and/or front page extensions...which blow major chunks. I HATE frontpage.



Linux has almost zero support and the support it does have blows hard. Never want to trust anything serious to it unless I was running IBM's version...but that's IBM for you.



Easy isn't always better, but as 2k is every bit as powerfull as Linux is and easier to get to that point I think it comes down to personal preference.



I don't knock Microsoft just because everyone else hates them, I tend to use what works. This is why I stuck to OS/2 for as long as I did...it worked even if it was a pain to deal with at points.

This topic sucks.





PS it's not PHP-Nuke....

Damn I must be in a crappy mood today...

I didn't... i was moving it around the screen and took a screen shot... the point was that xp was using 100% of my processor to move task manager in a circle. All I want is an operating system that doesn't kill itself after a couple months of playing games. I don't know how reliable linux is, but the reason I don't run it is because there are no games for it. And my computer is just a big game machine anyway so there isn't much point either, unless they come out with a decent linux app that can run windows software.

also i figure with billions of dollars you would be able to write an os that was "perfect" and didn't have ANY bugs, it can't be THAT hard can it?

and please excuse phinsup he seems to be pmsing today :newlaugh:

It isn't? Cool, looked like it from where I was sitting, but I wasn't looking all that hard. Still love the site no matter what it's written in.

I didn't... i was moving it around the screen and took a screen shot... the point was that xp was using 100% of my processor to move task manager in a circle. All I want is an operating system that doesn't kill itself after a couple months of playing games. I don't know how reliable linux is, but the reason I don't run it is because there are no games for it. And my computer is just a big game machine anyway so there isn't much point either, unless they come out with a decent linux app that can run windows software.[/quote]

Games are always brutal to a computer, esepecially some of the older games. I've got an old 486 for playing some DOS games on when I don't feel like fighting with XP. Usually something with video that kills em.

Everyone has em bro, no worries here https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Im on Windows 98

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHH!



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

You mean the prettier version of Win 95... but no quite as pretty as ME?



I wish the rain would stop here... or they would let me out of my cage.

are they memory leaks? what does it do to the os? does it rewrite some code or something? I dont' undersstand how running a game can permanently mess up an os

im on 3.1 https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

damn i wish i could get a funny ass title like "bill gates groupie" thats some funny **** https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

we'll see if I can think one up https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

95 *shudder* At least 98 is stable SOME days.



I loaded Windows ME for the first time yesterday. *yawns*

memory leaks and overwritten code usually does it, that and crashing at the wrong moment.



Some games don't properly let go of resources and will cause the system to eat itself. Older games are worse then newer games, plus using features in the OS in a way that's not expected....

Good One ThirdGen LOL!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :smilewinkgrin:

< maybe Im missing something here, I have had windows 98 on this computer for 4 years now, never had to reload it, never had any problems, my other computer which I got last year for my girlfriend to play with while Im on here, I also installed win98 due to the fact I had ZERO problems with my older one.

Better go buy a lotto ticket cause you are one lucky somebitch! :smilewinkgrin: https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

When it gives me problems, Ill switch, if it aint broke- I aint fixin it

I've had 98 on one of my systems and it's never given me any trouble what so ever. My mom's computer flat would not run with 95 and the 98 beta ran MUCH better.



My wife's computer is SO freaking unstable with 98 it's not funny, works fine with XP.



I've had mixed results on other systems....it's bloody hard to predict.



XP overall has been much more stable in my experience.



As far as Linux goes. once you get it up and running it's mostly hard to take down unless you have hardware that's going out and/or hardware that it just doesn't like. Oddly enough I was running an older version of Linux on a Matrox video card which at the time were REALLY unstable and the thing wouldn't die for anything.

we need the bs flag

As of Win 2000, Microsoft finally figured out what an OS is supposed to do. Up until then Windows was basically DOS on crack. Many extra features (like graphics, etc), but it didn't really even attempt to prevent a rotten apple application from taking over and destroying the system (like a true "Operating System" is supposed to do).

< what kind of remark is that? Who would I be impressing saying I havent had any problems running a operating system that is over 4 years old? And I DO hope you arent saying I wouldnt lay out the measley few dollars to upgrade it? I dont "work" on my computer, I use if for basic home use, I dont play games on it either, sitting in my spare bedroom to play a game isnt my thing, I would rather play my PS2 in my livingroom. Maybe I took your comment the wrong way, but think before you post a comment like that.

this topic shold be renamed "PMS". everyone taking **** to heart...****** worse than my girlfriend.