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mazdaspeed7 01-14-2004 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Dysfnctnl85' date='Jan 14 2004, 01:50 PM
G35 all the way.



The S2000 doesn't have torque...everyone likes torque.

Youve never driven one, have you?



My best friend has an S2000, and that thing is a blast to drive. The car masks the lack of torque incredibly well. It has very short gears, and revs freely. You dont really notice it, even in the higher gears, unless you drive it like a V8. The handling is amazing.



The G35 is a sexy car, but Ive never driven one, so Ill hold off on any other judgements. One of my good friends is in this exact same situation. Hes torn between the S2000 and G35.

Dysfnctnl85 01-14-2004 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by mazdaspeed7' date='Jan 14 2004, 02:25 PM
Youve never driven one, have you?



My best friend has an S2000, and that thing is a blast to drive. The car masks the lack of torque incredibly well. It has very short gears, and revs freely. You dont really notice it, even in the higher gears, unless you drive it like a V8. The handling is amazing.



The G35 is a sexy car, but Ive never driven one, so Ill hold off on any other judgements. One of my good friends is in this exact same situation. Hes torn between the S2000 and G35.

Nah I've never driven one, just the numbers alone make me uninterested. The car is beautiful, the engine could be better though...



But that's just my opinion...

FrestyleFC3S 01-14-2004 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by mazdaspeed7' date='Jan 14 2004, 03:25 PM
One of my good friends is in this exact same situation. Hes torn between the S2000 and G35.

my friend has a g35 coupe...and he wants to sell it and get an s2000 ... im trying to convince him hes stupid

inanimate_object 01-14-2004 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Dysfnctnl85' date='Jan 14 2004, 06:50 PM
G35 all the way.



The S2000 doesn't have torque...everyone likes torque.



I don't like torque, torque = weight. I plan on having less than half the torque than an s2000 in my car, and I should go a lot faster to boot. Also the s2000 as far as I can see has more torque than any non-turbo rx-7. I'm not trying to be argumentative, just thought I'd voice my opinion https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png .



I had to say I thought a lot more people here would have gone for the honda, does a smallish RWD sports car with a relatively small engine revving to 9000rpm sound familiar? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png



Mark

Dysfnctnl85 01-14-2004 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by inanimate_object' date='Jan 14 2004, 02:45 PM
I don't like torque, torque = weight. I plan on having less than half the torque than an s2000 in my car, and I should go a lot faster to boot. Also the s2000 as far as I can see has more torque than any non-turbo rx-7. I'm not trying to be argumentative, just thought I'd voice my opinion https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png .



I had to say I thought a lot more people here would have gone for the honda, does a smallish RWD sports car with a relatively small engine revving to 9000rpm sound familiar? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png



Mark

How does torque equal weight?



I haven't had physics in awhile... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png

mazdaspeed7 01-14-2004 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Dysfnctnl85' date='Jan 14 2004, 03:27 PM
Nah I've never driven one, just the numbers alone make me uninterested. The car is beautiful, the engine could be better though...



But that's just my opinion...

The engine is a gem. How can you be so niave as to base your judgement on a single number?



inanimate_object, that reasoning is flat out stupid. HP is derived from torque. HP is not a measurable number, its a relationhip of torque to time. HP is simply a measure of the work done, while torque is what actually does that work. And torque has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with weight. Heavy cars often have more torque because it makes them more drivable.

Erik 01-14-2004 02:36 PM

never been in either...if i had a choice...S2000 all tha way https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



its lack of torque, roof, and size makes for a perfectly fun car...I'm not in the mood for luxury https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

inanimate_object 01-14-2004 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Dysfnctnl85' date='Jan 14 2004, 09:01 PM
How does torque equal weight?



I haven't had physics in awhile... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png

Theoretically speaking, the factor that determines the strength of the drivetrain in a car is the torque of the engine, and invariably more torque means the clutch/gearbox/diff need to be bigger/heavier.



Also torque is more or less directly proportional to the size of the engine, meaning the more torque you want the bigger the engine needs to be. . A bigger engine theoretically means a heavier engine by way of more metal used.



The chassis also will have to cope with the heavier components and extra torque also needing to be heavier.



This is obviously a simplified explanation there are obviously more factors, but I think it sufficiently states my point.



Mark



edit:

HP is not a measurable number, its a relationhip of torque to time.:


HP is actually a relationship of torque to revs. Here's an equation many of you will know: Torque = Horsepower x 5252/rpm

Dysfnctnl85 01-14-2004 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by inanimate_object' date='Jan 14 2004, 03:38 PM
Theoretically speaking, the factor that determines the strength of the drivetrain in a car is the torque of the engine, and invariably more torque means the clutch/gearbox/diff need to be bigger/heavier.



Also torque is more or less directly proportional to the size of the engine, meaning the more torque you want the bigger the engine needs to be. . A bigger engine theoretically means a heavier engine by way of more metal used.

Well that does make sense...but more or less, it has to do with the materials used to construct the drivetrain.

Dysfnctnl85 01-14-2004 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by mazdaspeed7' date='Jan 14 2004, 03:07 PM
The engine is a gem. How can you be so niave as to base your judgement on a single number?

Maybe I am naive, but in my opinion, a high compression ratio is not a substitute for displacement, etc.


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