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Kim 02-22-2006 05:35 AM

I doubt that you can make the rotary powerfull enough to compete with the piston engines in F1 trim, unless you go turbo which is not allowed.



Even the three rotor in the Courage Mazda LMP2 car is insufficient compared to the competetion.

1988RedT2 02-22-2006 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Kim' post='803367' date='Feb 22 2006, 06:35 AM

I doubt that you can make the rotary powerfull enough to compete with the piston engines in F1 trim, unless you go turbo which is not allowed.



Even the three rotor in the Courage Mazda LMP2 car is insufficient compared to the competetion.



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif I find it hard to believe that with a little development work, the rotary couldn't be made to compete with piston engines in F1. Displacement for displacement, the rotary could kick a piston's ass in the output department. Maybe not in fuel consumption, though.

RONIN FC 02-22-2006 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by 1988RedT2' post='803390' date='Feb 22 2006, 09:56 AM



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif I find it hard to believe that with a little development work, the rotary couldn't be made to compete with piston engines in F1. Displacement for displacement, the rotary could kick a piston's ass in the output department.

With the F1 budget, I think so too.



Maybe it could be more economical with the ren style exhaust port. I dont think Mazda ever used side exhaust ports in racing even to this day.

mcw3 02-22-2006 11:58 AM

Something people forget is how much time and money have gone into piston enignes. Compare a piston engine today with what was being produced 50 years ago. . .



In the current political state of the sport, they don't allow anything besides a V-10 (in the name of cost-cutting/savings). It will take a major shake-up to even consider allowing different configurations, let alone different engine types. Damn shame, though. I wonder how fast they could make a rotary turn?

Dysfnctnl85 02-22-2006 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Kim' post='803367' date='Feb 22 2006, 06:35 AM

I doubt that you can make the rotary powerfull enough to compete with the piston engines in F1 trim, unless you go turbo which is not allowed.



Even the three rotor in the Courage Mazda LMP2 car is insufficient compared to the competetion.



To me, "any motor" includes FI.

Dysfnctnl85 02-22-2006 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by RONIN FC' post='803412' date='Feb 22 2006, 11:59 AM

With the F1 budget, I think so too.



Maybe it could be more economical with the ren style exhaust port. I dont think Mazda ever used side exhaust ports in racing even to this day.



Star Mazda uses RENESIS engines, right?

RONIN FC 02-22-2006 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Dysfnctnl85' post='803437' date='Feb 22 2006, 01:38 PM



Star Mazda uses RENESIS engines, right?

Maybe it does, but i cant find any specs or pics to see if its actually a ren style port.



I remember reading the "new" ALMS rotaries still bieng Peri exhaust port, and still bieng called "RENESIS based". So i dunno.

Jedi 02-22-2006 11:06 PM

Damnit.... just let them do it so I can get my hands on the leftovers.... Mmmmmmmm


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