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boxrs4sale 05-12-2004 08:23 PM

anyone by chance have a research paper on organic foods ? i am takin some food marketing class and i have to do a research paper.. i chose organic foods.. i thought it might be easy



so.. anyone have a spare one lyin around ?

boxrs4sale 05-12-2004 09:19 PM

man.. you guys suck.





no health nuts here.. maybe beer nuts

Nan da yo! 05-13-2004 02:25 AM

My grandpa is an organic farmer. Its a bitch to grow stuff since you can't use pesticides and the damn bugs like to eat everything, so they rely on a lot of predators to eat the bugs.

1988RedT2 05-13-2004 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by Nan da yo!' date='May 13 2004, 02:25 AM
My grandpa is an organic farmer. Its a bitch to grow stuff since you can't use pesticides and the damn bugs like to eat everything, so they rely on a lot of predators to eat the bugs.

Yah. Predator. Set Ahnold loose on dose bugs!



I'm a bit of a health food proponent and I own shares in a natural foods retailer called Wild Oats.

Nan da yo! 05-13-2004 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by 1988RedT2' date='May 13 2004, 04:06 AM
Yah. Predator. Set Ahnold loose on dose bugs!



I'm a bit of a health food proponent and I own shares in a natural foods retailer called Wild Oats.

Is that where you sow your wild oats?

1988RedT2 05-13-2004 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Nan da yo!' date='May 13 2004, 12:42 PM
Is that where you sow your wild oats?

Not for a while now. Married, with child. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

j9fd3s 05-13-2004 02:34 PM

we went to europe last summer and the wine makes in france laugh at us because we are allowed to water our grapes. they plant thiers and let nature take its course, very different from us

TYSON 05-13-2004 03:00 PM

All foods are organic. Unless you have an unusual digestive tract, your not going to find to much nutrition from other sources.



Food grown "organically" is a joke. Let me pay extra for food that looks like it's already half rotten. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif



Doing it in your own garden is a little different scale from trying to feed the general public.

1988RedT2 05-18-2004 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by TYSON' date='May 13 2004, 03:00 PM
All foods are organic. Unless you have an unusual digestive tract, your not going to find to much nutrition from other sources.



Food grown "organically" is a joke. Let me pay extra for food that looks like it's already half rotten. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif



Doing it in your own garden is a little different scale from trying to feed the general public.

How did this inane post escape my watchful eye? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png While I generally feel that TYSON is a very intelligent person and find myself agreeing with most of what he posts, I must vehemently disagree with him here.



The "food industry" in the U.S., if not everywhere, is using pesticides, herbicides, growth hormones, and god knows what other chemicals in order to produce a profitable crop. Some of these substances are already known to have widespread negative ecological impact; others will doubtless be found to be dangerous at some point in the future (remember DDT?). No less important are the effects these substances may be having on the people who eat this chemical-laden, genetically distorted food.



Pesticide residue, mad-cow disease, BGH, irradiation, foot & mouth, salmonella, etc. etc. The list of concerns regarding our food supply is long, and I can't believe that too many people are completely unconcerned about the quality of the food that they eat. The explosive growth of "organic" foods retailers drives home this point.



I agree that some low-volume retailers stock produce that shouldn't even be offered for sale. But there are other stores that sell a lot of "organic" foods and stock very nice looking and tasting produce. Is it worth the extra cost? Who knows for sure.



The buying public should seek to be informed about what they are eating and demand that food producers discontinue the use of chemicals and practices that produce food that causes disease in humans. The best way to do this, in my opinion, is to buy "organic".



And yes, I do have a garden. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

FDRacing 05-18-2004 01:34 PM

does my organic pot garden count?

1988RedT2 05-18-2004 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by FDRacing' date='May 18 2004, 01:34 PM
does my organic pot garden count?

Yes. You know that there aren't any pesticide residues or herbicides on your weed.

Baldy 05-18-2004 01:39 PM

For all you people who care about what's in your food, take a good look in your fridge. Sniff a little, too. Clean that bitch out! You know it needs it!



The wife and I cleaned the fridge out last night, and I remember saying to her something about it's funny how much people care about how clean food packagers are, but I bet most fridges are filthy.

FDRacing 05-18-2004 01:42 PM

a little agent orange can put a kick in your weed, tho.

1988RedT2 05-18-2004 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by FDRacing' date='May 18 2004, 01:42 PM
a little agent orange can put a kick in your weed, tho.

Yah, I'm sure. And a kick upside yo' head, too!



Might be good now, but what'll your brain look like in 20 years?



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FDRacing 05-18-2004 02:01 PM

<---doesnt actually do drugs



i drink in excessive amounts tho

1988RedT2 05-19-2004 09:04 AM

Drugs? I was talking about weed.

defprun 05-19-2004 09:08 AM

Weed as the kind that grown in your organic garden and choke up all your tomatos?

1988RedT2 05-19-2004 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by defprun' date='May 19 2004, 09:08 AM
Weed as the kind that grown in your organic garden and choke up all your tomatos?

My tomatoes were coughing this morning. I think they might be smoking my weed.

TYSON 05-19-2004 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by 1988RedT2' date='May 18 2004, 02:28 PM
How did this inane post escape my watchful eye? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png While I generally feel that TYSON is a very intelligent person and find myself agreeing with most of what he posts, I must vehemently disagree with him here.



The "food industry" in the U.S., if not everywhere, is using pesticides, herbicides, growth hormones, and god knows what other chemicals in order to produce a profitable crop. Some of these substances are already known to have widespread negative ecological impact; others will doubtless be found to be dangerous at some point in the future (remember DDT?). No less important are the effects these substances may be having on the people who eat this chemical-laden, genetically distorted food.



Pesticide residue, mad-cow disease, BGH, irradiation, foot & mouth, salmonella, etc. etc. The list of concerns regarding our food supply is long, and I can't believe that too many people are completely unconcerned about the quality of the food that they eat. The explosive growth of "organic" foods retailers drives home this point.



I agree that some low-volume retailers stock produce that shouldn't even be offered for sale. But there are other stores that sell a lot of "organic" foods and stock very nice looking and tasting produce. Is it worth the extra cost? Who knows for sure.



The buying public should seek to be informed about what they are eating and demand that food producers discontinue the use of chemicals and practices that produce food that causes disease in humans. The best way to do this, in my opinion, is to buy "organic".



And yes, I do have a garden. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Unless you intend to lead the fight to reduce the population of the world by a SIGNIFICANT amount, there is no way we can rely on "organically" raised food. Yields are incredibly low, and really won't get any better.



"Organic" farms surrounded by farms that use chemicals benefit from those chemicals, whether they admit it or not. If your weedy little patch of lettuce is 5 miles from the next weedy patch of lettuce, it makes it much harder for weed seeds and insects to move onto your crop. Once those chemical using farms change over, the spread of weeds and insects is far easier.



The chemicals and toxins you're concerned about are used, no argument, but when I see some retarded housewife picking through the sad looking produce in the "organic" section and then climb back in her Expedition to drive 3 blocks home it makes me laugh.



I'll generalize here from my own observations and point out that many of these same people buy bottled water, paying up to $2 per litre. BOTTLED WATER IS TAP WATER!!! There are no laws governing what is in bottled water unless they claim it is distilled, then it must be distilled. Yet they think they're getting some kind of health benefit from buying water.





If you:



drink alcohol



smoke ANYTHING



barbecue ANYTHING



drive a car



live in, or close to, an urban area



or use household cleaning products



you've got bigger health concerns than what was used to produce your food. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

boxrs4sale 05-19-2004 10:14 AM

actually as of now, there are no proven health benefits of organic food.. i can post a couple links later if you guys want.



the only "advantage" is that some chef's think it tastes better..



and that is what a 12 page research paper got me... booyah.

1988RedT2 05-19-2004 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by TYSON' date='May 19 2004, 09:42 AM
Unless you intend to lead the fight to reduce the population of the world by a SIGNIFICANT amount, there is no way we can rely on "organically" raised food. Yields are incredibly low, and really won't get any better.



"Organic" farms surrounded by farms that use chemicals benefit from those chemicals, whether they admit it or not. If your weedy little patch of lettuce is 5 miles from the next weedy patch of lettuce, it makes it much harder for weed seeds and insects to move onto your crop. Once those chemical using farms change over, the spread of weeds and insects is far easier.



The chemicals and toxins you're concerned about are used, no argument, but when I see some retarded housewife picking through the sad looking produce in the "organic" section and then climb back in her Expedition to drive 3 blocks home it makes me laugh.



I'll generalize here from my own observations and point out that many of these same people buy bottled water, paying up to $2 per litre. BOTTLED WATER IS TAP WATER!!! There are no laws governing what is in bottled water unless they claim it is distilled, then it must be distilled. Yet they think they're getting some kind of health benefit from buying water.





If you:



drink alcohol



smoke ANYTHING



barbecue ANYTHING



drive a car



live in, or close to, an urban area



or use household cleaning products



you've got bigger health concerns than what was used to produce your food. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Well argued, for the most part. I must take exception to your conclusion, however. We can and should MINIMIZE exposure to toxins in our lives where possible. We may need to live near a city to work, drive a car to get to work, and we may even need a damn drink every now and then. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png But there is no reason we shouldn't be able to buy foods that are produced "naturally" and with a minimum of added chemicals.



Y'all buy what you want. I'm no radical, and I don't buy organic foods on a regular basis. I just think people should be more aware of the processes and materials that are used in the production of the foods they eat.


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