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sleeperRX7 09-09-2002 11:14 PM

i found this website today and heres a link to there page, what are your opions of there manufactored engines? anyone bought off them before, thanks. http://www.revolutionrotary.com/reman.html mainly the upgraded 86-88 13b non turbo with the 3mm apex seals and being street ported? thaks for the help

89 Rag 09-09-2002 11:26 PM

Go Pineapple, or Atkins, you wont be sorry...

banzaitoyota 09-10-2002 06:37 AM

I am very pleased with all my dealings at Pineapple.

vosko 09-10-2002 07:42 AM

you get what you pay for on engine rebuilds..........

sleeperRX7 09-10-2002 02:38 PM

yeah but for the price and it includes 3mm apex seals and being street ported? good price/buy?

13BAce 09-10-2002 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by sleeperRX7' date='Sep 9 2002, 09:14 PM
i found this website today and heres a link to there page, what are your opions of there manufactored engines? anyone bought off them before, thanks. http://www.revolutionrotary.com/reman.html mainly the upgraded 86-88 13b non turbo with the 3mm apex seals and being street ported? thaks for the help

You don't really need 3 mm seals on an NA, but the street port would be nice.

13BAce 09-10-2002 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Sep 10 2002, 05:42 AM
you get what you pay for on engine rebuilds..........

Not necessarily.

13BAce 09-10-2002 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by sleeperRX7' date='Sep 10 2002, 12:38 PM
yeah but for the price and it includes 3mm apex seals and being street ported? good price/buy?

That price is about average.

2 HOTT 09-10-2002 05:57 PM

I am looking into doing a rebuild myself. Just waiting on some video's to help me figure out if I think my skills are up to par to do so myself. I have rebuilt everything from lawn mower engines to v8's. But have to do some more research on the rotary to see if I feel comfortable. Would have the porting done by a near by rotary mech and also have them make sure the that everything was within spec for a rebuild.

VRex07TT 09-11-2002 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by 2 HOTT' date='Sep 10 2002, 07:57 PM
I am looking into doing a rebuild myself. Just waiting on some video's to help me figure out if I think my skills are up to par to do so myself. I have rebuilt everything from lawn mower engines to v8's. But have to do some more research on the rotary to see if I feel comfortable. Would have the porting done by a near by rotary mech and also have them make sure the that everything was within spec for a rebuild.

are you waiting on the videos to come from www.atkinsrotary.com?

when you recieve them, please let me know what you thought of them.

phinsup 09-11-2002 08:52 AM

isamu has them and he said they were a great help.

vosko 09-11-2002 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Sep 10 2002, 06:38 PM
[quote name='vosko' date='Sep 10 2002, 05:42 AM']you get what you pay for on engine rebuilds..........

Not necessarily.[/quote]

if you get a $500 rebuild......... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

j9fd3s 09-11-2002 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by 2 HOTT' date='Sep 10 2002, 03:57 PM
I am looking into doing a rebuild myself. Just waiting on some video's to help me figure out if I think my skills are up to par to do so myself. I have rebuilt everything from lawn mower engines to v8's. But have to do some more research on the rotary to see if I feel comfortable. Would have the porting done by a near by rotary mech and also have them make sure the that everything was within spec for a rebuild.

if you can rebuild a v8 the rotary should be like a walk in the park.

i can build a rotary, and i can't even pack wheel bearings.



mike

SPOautos 09-11-2002 11:00 AM

The other thing to remember is the price doesnt include rotor housings.....you will need new rotor housings and that adds another $1000 or so to the price.



When ever you get pricing you need to ask them how much extra it will be if you need rotor housings. Some places include the housings in thier pricing cause they always use new housing with every rebuild. Thats why thier price is a little more. In reality its not a little more cause your $2300 rebuild is going to end up being at least $3300 by the time you add in 2 housings.



STEPHEN

manntis 09-11-2002 11:46 AM

Not always. I broker rebuilds, many with new side housings, starting at $1,375.00 USD

2 HOTT 09-11-2002 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by VRex07TT' date='Sep 11 2002, 08:09 AM
[quote name='2 HOTT' date='Sep 10 2002, 07:57 PM']I am looking into doing a rebuild myself. Just waiting on some video's to help me figure out if I think my skills are up to par to do so myself. I have rebuilt everything from lawn mower engines to v8's. But have to do some more research on the rotary to see if I feel comfortable. Would have the porting done by a near by rotary mech and also have them make sure the that everything was within spec for a rebuild.

are you waiting on the videos to come from www.atkinsrotary.com?

when you recieve them, please let me know what you thought of them.[/quote]

Actually I am getting them from http://www.rotaryaviation.com/ the rebuild video and the engine removal video. They are the same video as atkins though. I will let ya know how they are.

j9fd3s 09-11-2002 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by manntis' date='Sep 11 2002, 09:46 AM
Not always. I broker rebuilds, many with new side housings, starting at $1,375.00 USD

how do you make money on that? dealer cost on rotor housings is still $350 (475 for rew) each, the gasket set is $80, plus $300 worth of apex seals, thats $1080. what if it needs rotor oil seals ($120) or side seals?



mike

manntis 09-11-2002 12:06 PM

The rebuild is done by RX-7 Specialties, who has been doing so for years. Because ReXes are pretty much all they do they get qty. prices. A shop in town quoted me $450-$600 CDN to hang my RB exhaust - RX-7 Specialties does the same job for $125 CDN.



If you're a dealer and order 1 part, you pay cost. If you order 50, you get a discount. If you're not a dealer and order 50, you get the same discount (we used to get jobber rates, 60% off cost, when buying GM parts for military vehicles for the old CUCVs, Chevy truck based vehicles)



If you add up the individual parts cost of, say, a Jeep Grand Cherokee you'll get a total of somewhere around $100,000. Yet dealers sell them for far less. It comes down to economies of scale.



In any event, if you're interested in checking it out pop by http://www.wigglepup.com/RX-7/ and click on "Rebuilt Rotaries"

13BAce 09-11-2002 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Sep 11 2002, 08:06 AM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Sep 10 2002, 06:38 PM'][quote name='vosko' date='Sep 10 2002, 05:42 AM']you get what you pay for on engine rebuilds..........

Not necessarily.[/quote]

if you get a $500 rebuild......... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png[/quote]

What exactly is this $500 rebuild you speak of?

manntis 09-11-2002 01:02 PM

He was using that to illustrate the "get what you pay for". A $500 rebuild, even in a Chevy 350, is suspect.

j9fd3s 09-11-2002 01:04 PM

hmm that must be a canada thing, as a dealer in the us, you can order 1 or 500 and you pay the same.



mike

isamu 09-11-2002 01:12 PM

Yea, I have the video from Atkins about overhauling the 13B which is narrated by Bruce Terrentine. It is a cool video and very helpful. For 30$ its a drop in the bucket compared to what you spend on the rebuild. This was the 1st time I had rebuilt an engine and the video was a very helpful tool. I don't know if you really need a video on pulling the engine, its pretty straight forward. Plus the Bruce Terrentine video starts with the full engine on the stand, and then goes through tearing it down.

manntis 09-11-2002 01:35 PM

Yeah, Mazda Canada also doesn't have to pay the tarriffs that Mazda America has to pay thanks to domestic car manufacturers lobbying US gov't to "level the playing field" in the late 80's...

phinsup 09-11-2002 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Sep 11 2002, 12:01 PM
[quote name='vosko' date='Sep 11 2002, 08:06 AM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Sep 10 2002, 06:38 PM'][quote name='vosko' date='Sep 10 2002, 05:42 AM']you get what you pay for on engine rebuilds..........

Not necessarily.[/quote]

if you get a $500 rebuild......... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png[/quote]

What exactly is this $500 rebuild you speak of?[/quote]

Plugs, plug wires, air filter, oil filter and oil. The rest is all profit.

ChainSawOnSteroids 09-11-2002 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Sep 11 2002, 04:03 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Sep 11 2002, 12:01 PM'][quote name='vosko' date='Sep 11 2002, 08:06 AM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Sep 10 2002, 06:38 PM'][quote name='vosko' date='Sep 10 2002, 05:42 AM']you get what you pay for on engine rebuilds..........

Not necessarily.[/quote]

if you get a $500 rebuild......... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png[/quote]

What exactly is this $500 rebuild you speak of?[/quote]

Plugs, plug wires, air filter, oil filter and oil. The rest is all profit.[/quote]

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phinsup 09-11-2002 02:27 PM

hey how come there aren't any spaces in your signature? Just curious....

13BAce 09-11-2002 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by manntis' date='Sep 11 2002, 11:02 AM
He was using that to illustrate the "get what you pay for". A $500 rebuild, even in a Chevy 350, is suspect.

No, he really thinks he can do a rebuild for $500. :o

phinsup 09-11-2002 03:06 PM

It's a "vosko rebuild" trust me you don't want one.

13BAce 09-11-2002 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Sep 11 2002, 01:06 PM
It's a "vosko rebuild" trust me you don't want one.

Is that the kind of motor that he uses liquid plumber in? I think he has the tidy bowl man's endorsement.

phinsup 09-11-2002 03:32 PM

Among other things. He uses chewing gum a lot too.


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