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defprun 05-09-2004 10:38 PM

Okay, now on motorcycles, my friend is saying that, if you "punch it" without shifting, the engine will automatically "jump" into what he calls the powerband. As if the powerband comes on like a honda engine's vtech.



Now I merely implied that the engine is just peaky, and that its "powerband" is just up higher in the revs. So, if at low rpm, you gun it, itll take a little while, but once it hits the powerband, it takes off....because the power is up high...in the "powerband".



He still insists that theres some sort of gearing mechanism inside the engine that only motorcycles have, that give you this extra boost of speed...like you are in gear...adn you punch it...and you just magically rocket off all the sudden...as if the motorcycle just hit its powerband, but not because this is some sort of magical fairy device within the engine...and not the engine spinning up to the rpm where its power is produced.



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Eric Happy Meal 05-09-2004 10:41 PM

he doesnt drive a motorcycle does he?

FDRacing 05-09-2004 10:41 PM

Power band in short is the range of rpm at which the engine makes its most power. You really want to **** with his head? No matter what engine you have, doesnt matter what size, make, mode, mods, changes, nitrous, anything, when the engine is running at just over 5,200RPM (between 5200 and 5250RPM) the torque and horsepower are 100% even.



Even if you have an engiine only capable at running say 2000RPM, if that engine reached between 5200 and 5250 it would be perfectly balanced. Theres nothing that can be done to change that.



Nifty info of da nite.

ColinRX7 05-09-2004 10:42 PM

Sounds like your friend doesn't know his ass from a pop tart.

FDRacing 05-09-2004 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by ColinRX7' date='May 9 2004, 07:42 PM
Sounds like your friend doesn't know his ass from a pop tart.

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defprun 05-09-2004 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by Eric Happy Meal' date='May 9 2004, 07:41 PM
he doesnt drive a motorcycle does he?

You see he drove one before, so now all the sudden he's ******* KNOW IT ALL about motorcycles. Drives me nuts.

Eric Happy Meal 05-09-2004 10:46 PM

sock him in the face and yell "YOUR WRONG YOU STUPID ****! JUST SHUT THE **** UP AND STOP TRYING TO PRETEND YOU KNOW EVERYTHING!"

ColinRX7 05-09-2004 10:46 PM

Sorta like how you drove a Jetta for a whole winter and now you're an expert with the "ohh I'ma get modified suspension"?



Bah... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

defprun 05-09-2004 10:50 PM

WTF i got newish stock suspension because i didnt want to DIE rounding a s-bend at 15 km/h

FDRacing 05-09-2004 10:53 PM

how many mph is that :P



damn out of towners.

ColinRX7 05-09-2004 10:55 PM

like 5

Leetheslacker 05-09-2004 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by defprun' date='May 9 2004, 11:44 PM
You see he drove one before, so now all the sudden he's ******* KNOW IT ALL about motorcycles. Drives me nuts.

thats called a camden-ism.



i have a friend named camden, who if you tell him something about say, drifting, in 2 days he'll be talkign about drifting like he nows everything about it.



Its quite funny.

89 Rag 05-09-2004 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by defprun' date='May 9 2004, 07:38 PM
Okay, now on motorcycles, my friend is saying that, if you "punch it" without shifting, the engine will automatically "jump" into what he calls the powerband. As if the powerband comes on like a honda engine's vtech.



Now I merely implied that the engine is just peaky, and that its "powerband" is just up higher in the revs. So, if at low rpm, you gun it, itll take a little while, but once it hits the powerband, it takes off....because the power is up high...in the "powerband".



He still insists that theres some sort of gearing mechanism inside the engine that only motorcycles have, that give you this extra boost of speed...like you are in gear...adn you punch it...and you just magically rocket off all the sudden...as if the motorcycle just hit its powerband, but not because this is some sort of magical fairy device within the engine...and not the engine spinning up to the rpm where its power is produced.



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It's not the magical fairy device...It's the magical fairy, YOU DID NOT KNOW THAT?!?! OMG!!!



If parents smoked alot of payote, thier kids all believe in the magical fairy, right along with the poop and tooth fairy https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png

FDRacing 05-09-2004 11:29 PM

yea my buddy will is like that. He tries to argue with ME about RX7's and how they work, yet he owns a honda and has never seen a rotary apart.

FDRacing 05-09-2004 11:29 PM

wait, the tooth fairy isnt real?



Thnx alot, *******.

89 Rag 05-09-2004 11:34 PM


Originally Posted by FDRacing' date='May 9 2004, 08:29 PM
wait, the tooth fairy isnt real?



Thnx alot, *******.

Go home and smack you parents in the mouth... tell them to stop smoking dope and telling you lies https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

FDRacing 05-09-2004 11:35 PM

i cant, they went to bike week.



******* job, my dads in myrtle beach getting tittie slapped by random blonde bitches and im on here talkin to u **** heads.



Eh, owell.

Midnightdriver 05-10-2004 01:44 AM

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png Your friend is a fucktard I've owned several bikes they do not have some special gearing or some magic power band. each bikes power band is dif. power band being the range at which it makes its hp and tq...again your friend is a tard. the thing that makes bikes so fast is the power to weight ratio.

drunkin_idiot 05-10-2004 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by defprun' date='May 9 2004, 07:38 PM
Okay, now on motorcycles, my friend is saying that, if you "punch it" without shifting, the engine will automatically "jump" into what he calls the powerband. As if the powerband comes on like a honda engine's vtech.



Now I merely implied that the engine is just peaky, and that its "powerband" is just up higher in the revs. So, if at low rpm, you gun it, itll take a little while, but once it hits the powerband, it takes off....because the power is up high...in the "powerband".



He still insists that theres some sort of gearing mechanism inside the engine that only motorcycles have, that give you this extra boost of speed...like you are in gear...adn you punch it...and you just magically rocket off all the sudden...as if the motorcycle just hit its powerband, but not because this is some sort of magical fairy device within the engine...and not the engine spinning up to the rpm where its power is produced.



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

My friend Brandon tried telling me the same exact **** ur talking about, some ****** internal gear thing that kicks in at a certain time, some weird ****. I was all like shut up bitch make me a samich. With bologna. Bitch.

Seraphx7 05-10-2004 09:43 AM

he probably plays alot of video games and hits the boost button so he thinks its like that in real life

defprun 05-10-2004 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Midnightdriver' date='May 9 2004, 10:44 PM
https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png Your friend is a fucktard I've owned several bikes they do not have some special gearing or some magic power band. each bikes power band is dif. power band being the range at which it makes its hp and tq...again your friend is a tard. the thing that makes bikes so fast is the power to weight ratio.

Thank you!



Too bad I can't show him this thread or he'll be mad at me for calling him a ****** moron https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



I told the guy if he did any research on it, he says no...and that his friend told him that's what's in it. Well, sometimes people LIE or DONT KNOW WHAT THE **** THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. For 20 years someone could call a valve a banana or something gay like that, and convince everyone around him that he knows what hes talking about...oh...i burned my banana's again...and than one day he looks it up in a book...and just doesnt believe it or someone tells him otherwise and he freaks out.



Another victim of outright closedmindedness.

FDRacing 05-10-2004 11:42 AM

haha **** tard.....

inanimate_object 05-10-2004 11:57 AM

The only gearboxes that come cloe to doing what he describes are CVT's, but there are no bikes with them to my knowledge - I'm sure they would be to bulky.



Mark

defprun 05-10-2004 12:18 PM

I bet they could run a CVT, problem with CVTs is that power would be limited, and making one small enough for a bike might be a problem in that area....but i guess the chain drive most bikes have hold on pretty good so i guess its not that big of a problem after all...



However...how fun would it be driving a automatic motorcycle?

nismo convert 05-10-2004 01:42 PM

lol get your buddy a Tard Guard

defprun 05-10-2004 03:34 PM

Anyone want to prove me wrong, seriously. I'm getting more people saying theres a non-linear "powerband" that will all the sudden "kick in" unlike any other natural engine building of power as it revs up into the higher rpm range.



ANYONE race competitively 2-stroke motorcycles for a living? How would you modify this "power band"

FDRacing 05-10-2004 09:55 PM

My dad has in the past, and i race dirtbikes and quads. Your right, hes wrong. You can modify any engines powerband with things like exhaust, gearing, reeds, etc.



They're mistaking a high rev, built to go engine with incredible power to weight ratio for something that is as back asswards as piston rings in an RX7.


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