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throw_sparx 01-14-2005 09:40 PM

hey my name is jeffrey leonard, about roughly a year ago i bought my first rx7 an 89 second gen, with out an engine for $500. i then bought a parts car for $600 an di had the engine put in and gave the guy the body for the labor but i paid for th enew clutch and other various little things i needed. a little later on i got some exhaust had him put it on and started doing proformance work so i had him remove the emissions and he accidently removed the omp and didnt tell me and the car started going into limp mode this went on for a week untill i could take it to the guys shop which is "commander service center" owned and opereated by james commander. in ft pierce fl 40 miles away from me in okeechobee so i take the car back to him and he puts the omp back on and it runs fine withen the next month the motor blows, being that this is my very first rotary car i didnt know anything about the car and its acctual opperation but him taking the oil pump off and not telling me to pre mix caused the motor blow which it still supprises me taht it lasted this long, so i kinda let it go and i found an 88 s4 t2 with grey interior and i really didnt like the car so i had the guy perform the conversion into my 89 s5 which has black interior and working electric suspension and everything works in the car well he does the conversion and i gave him th ebody for the laybor which hey buys an dsells them so he gladly does that the body was flawless on th es4 wel he does the job and it took 3 more weeks than he said it would i let it slide, because of the dealsi get from this guy, well i went to pick it up and the car was running i got in it and drove home got home shut the car off and go in the house later on that day o go get in the car and try to start it well it about a half an hour to start it it wasnt fludded and it would start fine in the other car well after about 2 weeks i learned that if you turn the key on adn off and on and off about 50 times without turning the motor over and then crank it up it right up. ok i could live with that not to bad but it was now turbo, well before the turbo motor the car would run a 15.9 in the 1/4 with the n/a engine and i took the turbo motor to th etrack and all i could get out of it was a 15.1 in the 1/4 wtf the car wasnt boosting past 5lbs and not starting correctly so i talked to one of my buddys and he suggested a new ecu so i pulled up the carpet and i found the problem the mazda expert spliced my harness WTF. so i decided to ditch all the stock efi bs and go full out i bought a t4 stainless manafold 50mm waste gate bov and some other stuff and was fixing to invest in a stand alone kit an di ran out of money so at this time i bought a cheep a** $400 honda to get around then the hurricanes came through so i sold the honda cause i was low on money so now i have a car that wont run correctly and i havent had anythign to drive so i took the car back to james because he was needing some turbo parts so i worked a deal to trade all my stock turbo engine and accessories and all the new parts i bought for a carborated bridge ported n/a motor which would be real easy for me to work on cause im a hot rodder and know how to work on the normal v8s so i dropped the car off he said it would take 2 weeks ok no biggie. well 2 weeks go buy he never touched the car so i kept checking on the car eventually he gets the motor built and in the car on the 6th week let alon the first week he pulled off all the parts he needed and fixed the car he needed the parts for. well i finally go to the shop on the day i was supposed to pick up the car on it still wasnt done the electric fan wasnt hooked up and there was no temp guage and and a couple of other little things so i said id go there the next day an dhe never shows up to finish the car so i hook the electric fan to the battery and drive the car home and finish it my self. i drove it real easy all the way home and then let it sit in the drive way idling to help break it in got up the next morning bought a guagena dput it in and then put the fan on a switch and cranked it up an dlet it run in the drive way for about an hour then that night i drove it to town but the motor wouldnot get over 5500 rpms so i put a new craborator a 650 carter competition it still done the same thing so the next day i cranked it up and let it run for about an hour or two and the next day o cranked it up reved it up a couple of times after letting it warm up and adjusted the carb reved it up a couple of more times and went to go test drive it with the new carb and the front rotor went WTF so i call the guy and he says bring it back so i did and its been another two weeks and he has just finally got the motor out so by this point i havent had anything to drive since the hurricanes last year adn im really getting pissed with this guy yet he can build and repair every one elses rx7s in a heck lot less time than mine he can and has rebuilt a motor and the guy was back on the road in the same day what does he have against me maybe its because im white an dnot a ricanm or cuban wtf, i love the rotarys but this is about to break me i dont over rev them or really run them that hard if you have seen me at the track you can agree with me on that i really dont know what ot do?

nismo convert 01-14-2005 09:43 PM

thats a lot of reading can we get paragraphs?

CrashFactory 01-14-2005 09:44 PM

First of all..use puntctuation and slow down, so we can understand what you're typing, second....wow...I dunno, I never had a LOT of problems with my 2nd gen (87 Base), which I found again the other day.....





Sean

defprun 01-14-2005 11:01 PM

this feels like a wicked repost...i remember crashfactory telling someone to slow down and write in paragraphs a while back?

Shane.Trammell 01-15-2005 08:58 AM

has anyone actually read that?

singleboy3 01-15-2005 09:16 AM

yeah I just read it.

Shane.Trammell 01-15-2005 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by singleboy3' date='Jan 15 2005, 09:16 AM
yeah I just read it.






did he ever list the name of the shop?

mazdadrifter 01-15-2005 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' date='Jan 15 2005, 09:58 AM
has anyone actually read that?


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Rotarydragon 01-15-2005 10:55 AM

There's a great invention called a period. It's on your keyboard. Usually you use it to break up sentances.



There's also the enter key, it's used to break up paragraphs.



Try it!

94touring 01-15-2005 10:56 AM

I read a couple lines and gave up. I need a translator to give me cliff notes.

Shane.Trammell 01-15-2005 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by 94touring' date='Jan 15 2005, 10:56 AM
I read a couple lines and gave up. I need a translator to give me cliff notes.




same here

Gen2RXSeven 01-15-2005 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' date='Jan 15 2005, 10:28 AM
did he ever list the name of the shop?




yes, he did. its down on the 7th or 8th line.




the guys shop which is "commander service center" owned and opereated by james commander. in ft pierce fl

DJ Blu 01-15-2005 03:51 PM

seems like alot of work to count that far

Gen2RXSeven 01-15-2005 07:55 PM

What can I say. I've been at work all day and have only had enough work to keep me occupied for about 20 or 30 minutes.

Eric Happy Meal 01-15-2005 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by 94touring' date='Jan 15 2005, 08:56 AM
I read a couple lines and gave up. I need a translator to give me cliff notes.



mazdadrifter 01-15-2005 08:38 PM

I have not heard 1 single good think about James Commander, ever.



If you want the car fixed you need to contact J.R. at Just Racing Fabrications. 343-0510 He's the best that i've ever met with rotaries and solving problems but he doesn't work for free. Get what you can back out of Commanders and take it there.



As a side note, Commander goes to JR when he needs something figured out as well.

throw_sparx 01-21-2005 11:00 PM

Sorry about the long indecipherable paragraph, i had just got home from picking up my car and getting blamed for everything that went wrong in the car. i was just overly pissed and needed to vent sorry.



thanks ill save some cash and go see JR.



for those who are lost on what i wrote ill make it real simple



1) bought car november 2003



2) bought parts car had motor put in my car ran great (jan 2004)



3) decided to make it faster and had emissions and unneeded parts removed

he accidently removed the OMP and the car started going into limp mode for a week (feb or march 2004)



4) took it back he put the OMp back on and it ran fine for a little over a month and the motor blew due to not having any oil injection (and not knowing anything about and if i was suppose to premix etc. etc. and from what i gather neither does he or i would have been told) (june 2004)



5) bought a S4 T2 didnt like the car and had a full conversion proformed to my S5 and it wouldnt boost past 5psi and wouldnt start propperly (july 2004)



6) bought some new stuff to fix problem bigger turbo new manafold bov and wastegate (july-september)



7) traded every rotary part (turbo) i owned or accumulated (to help the guy out of a bind) for a rebuilt bridge ported motor intake and other accessories put in car (september 2004 - jan 2005)



8) drove it to town 3 times barely running and the motor blew (jan 2005)





first thing i had him do took 4 weeks

the second took 5 weeks

third new motor took basicly 7 weeks and still no car with a few months there sitting in the back yard



i have close to 9k invested in my car and i still cant drive it and i havent had anything to drive since the hurricanes last year



but im finally gettign a truck next week so the car sitting wont be as bad on me now then i can save to take it somewhere else:)

nopistons94 01-21-2005 11:08 PM

that car looks nice

TheRiseOfTheFerret 01-21-2005 11:15 PM

I wish mine looked that good!

mazdadrifter 01-21-2005 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by throw_sparx' date='Jan 21 2005, 11:59 PM
Sorry about the long indecipherable paragraph, i had just got home from picking up my car and getting blamed for everything that went wrong in the car. i was just overly pissed and needed to vent sorry.



thanks ill save some cash and go see JR.



for those who are lost on what i wrote ill make it real simple



1) bought car november 2003



2) bought parts car had motor put in my car ran great (jan 2004)



3) decided to make it faster and had emissions and unneeded parts removed

he accidently removed the OMP and the car started going into limp mode for a week (feb or march 2004)



4) took it back he put the OMp back on and it ran fine for a little over a month and the motor blew due to not having any oil injection (and not knowing anything about and if i was suppose to premix etc. etc. and from what i gather neither does he or i would have been told) (june 2004)



5) bought a S4 T2 didnt like the car and had a full conversion proformed to my S5 and it wouldnt boost past 5psi and wouldnt start propperly (july 2004)



6) bought some new stuff to fix problem bigger turbo new manafold bov and wastegate (july-september)



7) traded every rotary part (turbo) i owned or accumulated (to help the guy out of a bind) for a rebuilt bridge ported motor intake and other accessories put in car (september 2004 - jan 2005)



8) drove it to town 3 times barely running and the motor blew (jan 2005)

first thing i had him do took 4 weeks

the second took 5 weeks

third new motor took basicly 7 weeks and still no car with a few months there sitting in the back yard



i have close to 9k invested in my car and i still cant drive it and i havent had anything to drive since the hurricanes last year



but im finally gettign a truck next week so the car sitting wont be as bad on me now then i can save to take it somewhere else:)




there's a lot of competant second gens running around town here, so when you get your car back in running shape pm me, or post something up in south east and we'll all have to meet up.



I wish i had more help for you than to just to recommend jr., but once he's done work for you, you pretty much refuse for anyone else to even look at the car.

SPD Racing FC 01-24-2005 07:30 PM

thanks for the cliff notes version

okisil80 01-24-2005 08:36 PM

damn ADD https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif

Jims5543 01-24-2005 08:43 PM

Paul or Himniracing on this forum lives in Sebring not too far from you.



In all honesty you need to track down JR and let him work on your car. He is SUPER honest and will not screw up your car.



I keep hearing about this commander guy. Some people talk about him like he is the best thing since sliced bread but I just dont see it.



Write down that phone number above and call JR. We will call him in the morning and tell him to expect a call.



At the VERY LEAST go and talk to him about your car. Go see whats shaking at that shop and you'll see this guy is the real deal.



Its so sad that there are so many poeple in the Rotary world that dont know what thye are doing but can pass off as "mechanics".



Good luck!


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