So yea I took my boat into this dude and did a pretty good number on it, I took some pics made a post in a local forum with pics to back up everything I posted and now the guy says he is going to sue me for liable.
Seeing as I have images of every claim I made I don't think he'll get to far, but would be pretty amazing if I get my boat fucked up, pay for the guy to do so then get sued LOL |
Yikes, good luck with that!
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What the hell? What did he do to the boat?
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If you've got the proof that he did exactly what you say he did through pictures, it'll be open and shut if it's even allowed to go to court. It's not lible unless it's untrue.
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Originally Posted by Il RX8 lI' post='764551' date='Sep 29 2005, 05:37 PM
If you've got the proof that he did exactly what you say he did through pictures, it'll be open and shut if it's even allowed to go to court. It's not lible unless it's untrue.
I didn't say anything that wasn;t true, I stated the facts, I posted the pics to back up each fact I honestly don't see how the guy could prove it. Plus as far as I can tell it's pretty hard to win a case for liable, you've got to prove damages and you've got to prove that lied, which I didn't do so I really don't see how he can do a damn thing. I even posted the proof in the forum with every issue. Seems to me it would be pretty hard to sue someone over something said on a forum anyhow, I mean, say someone logged in with my id, started saying some ****, would seem hard to even prove it was me. Not that I have an issue with saying it was in fact me, the guy ******* screwed me. |
It's easier to prove your innocence with pictures, but if you didn't say anything at all that's untrue, you're clean. I'll run it by dad to see what he says when he gets home though. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png
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Originally Posted by Il RX8 lI' post='764555' date='Sep 29 2005, 05:44 PM
It's easier to prove your innocence with pictures, but if you didn't say anything at all that's untrue, you're clean. I'll run it by dad to see what he says when he gets home though. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png
I can give ya a link to the topic if ya need it just let me know. |
Go ahead and post (or pm) the link and I'll hit dad up with it later on sometime tonight.
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bah, proving that YOU said something on a public forum, in a public internet, by a "screenname/persona" is nearly impossible.
unless your name there is "Scott ?. ?????", obviously fill in the ? with appropriate letters/name. proving most stuff on the internet is really hard. too difficult to prove someone is who they say they are or who they portray themselves to be. plus you didnt lie. kevin. |
Originally Posted by teknics' post='764560' date='Sep 29 2005, 06:09 PM
bah, proving that YOU said something on a public forum, in a public internet, by a "screenname/persona" is nearly impossible.
unless your name there is "Scott ?. ?????", obviously fill in the ? with appropriate letters/name. proving most stuff on the internet is really hard. too difficult to prove someone is who they say they are or who they portray themselves to be. plus you didnt lie. kevin. Same screen as here, my signature has my name it, but hell anyone could do that. |
If you've got pictures of the boat beforehand in the same spots where damage was pictured (especially if there's a way to prove the date) I know it would help. However, starting a lawsuit from an internet claim is (from what I've seen) near damn impossible, so unless they call you up and approach in person, you don't have much to worry about. However, you suing them for a crappy job is very feasible.
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He's been calling me non stop for 2 days to argue.
I don't think I have any before pics though, not of those sections, lol I didn't know they were going to be fucked up! |
So how exactly were his threats made? Was it a "I'm going to get a lawyer and sue you for libel/slander!" or was it a call made from a law office where you spoke to a lawyer?
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Originally Posted by phinsup' post='764568' date='Sep 29 2005, 06:19 PM
He's been calling me non stop for 2 days to argue. I don't think I have any before pics though, not of those sections, lol I didn't know they were going to be fucked up! if you did you wouldnt have this problem, scott. shame on you. havent you unleashed your ESP powers? LEVEL UP DAMMIT. But in all honesty, everything on the internet is hard to prove in court, especially since i think courts still cant dictate the actual material on the internet.....yet. kevin. |
Originally Posted by teknics' post='764573' date='Sep 29 2005, 05:24 PM
if you did you wouldnt have this problem, scott. shame on you. havent you unleashed your ESP powers? LEVEL UP DAMMIT. But in all honesty, everything on the internet is hard to prove in court, especially since i think courts still cant dictate the actual material on the internet.....yet. kevin. |
Originally Posted by Il RX8 lI' post='764570' date='Sep 29 2005, 06:22 PM
So how exactly were his threats made? Was it a "I'm going to get a lawyer and sue you for libel/slander!" or was it a call made from a law office where you spoke to a lawyer?
I said look man if you keep calling me and threatening me and hollering on my voicemail I am going to have to hire a lawyer which I am really not in the mood to do as I just want to put this behind me. He told me he was going to sue me for liable due to the things I posted on the forum, I asked him what I posted that wasnt true and he just flew off the handle. |
he doesnt know what libel is, for anything to be libel it first has to be a lie.
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Oh, in that case, I really wouldn't worry about it. 1. It was on the internet, 2. Everything that was said is true (and I believe you have witnesses to attest to it,) 3. He hasn't already sought out a lawyer. If you do get a call from a lawyer, it would have to be a Lionel Hutz type to even take the case.
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Originally Posted by Il RX8 lI' post='764581' date='Sep 29 2005, 06:30 PM
Oh, in that case, I really wouldn't worry about it. 1. It was on the internet, 2. Everything that was said is true (and I believe you have witnesses to attest to it,) 3. He hasn't already sought out a lawyer. If you do get a call from a lawyer, it would have to be a Lionel Hutz type to even take the case. Too bad youre not in NJ, i have a great lawyer. kevin. |
Originally Posted by Il RX8 lI' post='764581' date='Sep 29 2005, 06:30 PM
Oh, in that case, I really wouldn't worry about it. 1. It was on the internet, 2. Everything that was said is true (and I believe you have witnesses to attest to it,) 3. He hasn't already sought out a lawyer. If you do get a call from a lawyer, it would have to be a Lionel Hutz type to even take the case.
Yea ask the old man if you get a chance, put my mind at ease LOL |
Originally Posted by teknics' post='764582' date='Sep 29 2005, 05:31 PM
Too bad youre not in NJ, i have a great lawyer. kevin. |
Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' post='764579' date='Sep 29 2005, 06:29 PM
he doesnt know what libel is, for anything to be libel it first has to be a lie.
Apparently he thinks i lied, I must have doctored the pics. |
And to think you said we could go out on the boat next time I come down to Florida. I might just have to pass on that.
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Originally Posted by Il RX8 lI' post='764587' date='Sep 29 2005, 06:35 PM
That implies...? "Scott, if you ever needed a lawyer, too bad youre not in NJ, i have a great one, not that you need one for this instance" and seriously, im not being a dick here...i can honestly see how what i said was sorta vague. kevin. |
Originally Posted by teknics' post='764594' date='Sep 29 2005, 05:40 PM
nothing, just that i have a great lawyer...not saying scott needs one, lol i see how that could be misread, my bad. bad choice of words: "Scott, if you ever needed a lawyer, too bad youre not in NJ, i have a great one, not that you need one for this instance" and seriously, im not being a dick here...i can honestly see how what i said was sorta vague. kevin. |
Originally Posted by Il RX8 lI' post='764596' date='Sep 29 2005, 06:41 PM
I knew if you were saying something "ass hole-ish" it would just be a joke. I just couldn't understand what you meant, haha. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png understandable, it was a porrly worded sentence...sorta an incomplete thought really. kevin. |
Originally Posted by Dave 88 A.E' post='764593' date='Sep 29 2005, 06:39 PM
And to think you said we could go out on the boat next time I come down to Florida. I might just have to pass on that.
ha ha I will have it fixed by this weekend as far as safety concerns, cosmetic that's another story. |
oh ok cause I won't be down there till the first week of march
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******* hacks
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Originally Posted by Dave 88 A.E' post='764603' date='Sep 29 2005, 06:51 PM
oh ok cause I won't be down there till the first week of march
I finished up pretty much everything but the cosmetic stuff today, putting it in the water tomorrow, I heading to the keys in two weeks for 10 days, gonna slay a lot of fish and burn a lot of gas!!! It will definetely be ready when you get down in march. |
Originally Posted by phinsup' post='764753' date='Sep 30 2005, 12:47 AM
I finished up pretty much everything but the cosmetic stuff today, putting it in the water tomorrow, I heading to the keys in two weeks for 10 days, gonna slay a lot of fish and burn a lot of gas!!! It will definetely be ready when you get down in march. How big of a boat is it? We had a family friend, millionaire but a frivolous spender, who had some awesome fishing boat but he traded it in for a cigarette boat. The fishing boat had all brand new electronics from whatever company has "ray" in their name i dont remember at this moment. it was cool. My family has only ever owned one of those little aluminum boats https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png kevin. |
Speaking of boats...... this happened several times and I finally got it repaired at the factory.This turned into a hole the next time.Then again the third time.
Looooooooong story.Got it back after 9 months. |
Originally Posted by teknics' post='764859
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Speaking of boats...... this happened several times and I finally got it repaired at the factory.This turned into a hole the next time.Then again the third time.
Looooooooong story.Got it back after 9 months. Ouch! |
Arguably, a plaintiff who regularly posts messages in an online chat room or bulletin board may be deemed to have voluntarily assumed an increased risk of defamation by courting attention and inviting comments. It is likely that such a plaintiff will be classified as a limited purpose public figure since he or she has access to the same audience that viewed the defamatory message and can rebut the statements almost immediately simply by posting a response. |
*insert owned pic*
the one i chose i myself deemed unfit https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png kevin. |
Originally Posted by l8t apex' post='764890' date='Sep 30 2005, 09:42 AM
Speaking of boats...... this happened several times and I finally got it repaired at the factory.This turned into a hole the next time.Then again the third time. Looooooooong story.Got it back after 9 months. you have a serious delamination problem there my friend If I was you I would hire a surveyor to sound out the bottom and do moisture readings, most of the time the factory cannot do quality repairs, often they send it out I have some stories I could tell you brotha |
Originally Posted by teknics' post='765075' date='Sep 30 2005, 01:56 PM
*insert owned pic* the one i chose i myself deemed unfit https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png kevin. BETTER WATCH WHAT YOU SAY MOTHER FUCKER !!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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