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Brilliant as the others, but...
You guys know that I'm the biggest proponent of the Matrix Saga, but I'll be honest. If I knew that the whole thing was gonna end this way, I'd have never watched the first movie and got into the whole Matrix thing. The movie is spectacular, but it lacks something, CHOICE. Where's our choice to find out what happened to everybody after the movie ended, I choose to know, tey chose to chicken out and not tell it the way we wanted it to be told. The Bros. started sometihng great, but then they got way ahead of everything and weren't great enough to finish the movie like it was meant to be finished. I'm so, so dissapointed. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png |
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word...this is what i say to the watchowski bros.
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I also knew how it was going to end. I'm not disappointed because I didn't expect it to end any other way, I mean it's the typical hero thing, you know?
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i agree, a complex movie with many questions raised should ******* answer them at the end....
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WHO ******* CARES!!!
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Originally Posted by 75 Repu' date='Nov 6 2003, 11:46 PM
WHO ******* CARES!!!
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um...guys ... neo was the savior .. hes a MESSIAH!!!!
think about what a messiah is and then understand why he died and neo wasnt an agent.... |
LOTR owns Joo!!!!!
I havent been a fan of the matrix series really so I'm a bit bias. I went to reloaded and fell asleep. It just wasnt for me. However, even though I didn't think I would like LOTR I thought it was great. Hopeful the final LOTR won't be as a big dissapointment as revolutions seems to be so far. |
Originally Posted by Drift_It' date='Nov 7 2003, 02:03 AM
LOTR owns Joo!!!!!
I havent been a fan of the matrix series really so I'm a bit bias. I went to reloaded and fell asleep. It just wasnt for me. However, even though I didn't think I would like LOTR I thought it was great. Hopeful the final LOTR won't be as a big dissapointment as revolutions seems to be so far. and while ur at it....read the LOTR books...******* every person in the world thinks theyre only movies....theyre one of the best selling novels to date, why and how would the movie be a let down |
Originally Posted by FrestyleFC3S' date='Nov 6 2003, 10:04 PM
[quote name='Drift_It' date='Nov 7 2003, 02:03 AM'] LOTR owns Joo!!!!!
I havent been a fan of the matrix series really so I'm a bit bias. I went to reloaded and fell asleep. It just wasnt for me. However, even though I didn't think I would like LOTR I thought it was great. Hopeful the final LOTR won't be as a big dissapointment as revolutions seems to be so far. and while ur at it....read the LOTR books...******* every person in the world thinks theyre only movies....theyre one of the best selling novels to date, why and how would the movie be a let down [/quote] Yeah, My G/F has the books, but I havent read them yet cause I wanna see the final movie then read the books. The books are always better then the movie so if I read the books after the movie I won't feel like I missed out on anything......ehhh did that make sense?? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif |
You guys don't get it. The movie was amazing, it couldn't have been made any diferently. But I'm dissapointed that it ended without having all hte questions answered. The whole Neo/Smith thing ended way to quick for my taste. They fight for so long, and then all of a sudden, BOOM, it's over. And the only bad scene was with the kid and the Oracle watching the sunrise, it was ghey.
The Bros. just weren't good enough to finish the movie. Sorry to say it, but this is a very sad moment in movie history. |
i believe there will be more movies / miniseries (ie animatrix)
its not over....ohhhh nooo its not was star wars over? ... nah uh |
But can you honestly look anyone and with a straight face say that episode 1 and 2 are better than any of the old ones?
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i merely said that they made more of them after ....not that they were better
mitsubishi for life? wtf did you do now buy a dsm? |
which questions weren't answered? :p
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Originally Posted by wile_e_coyote' date='Nov 7 2003, 05:24 AM
which questions weren't answered? :p
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Originally Posted by Srce' date='Nov 7 2003, 01:13 AM
You guys don't get it. The movie was amazing, it couldn't have been made any diferently. But I'm dissapointed that it ended without having all hte questions answered. The whole Neo/Smith thing ended way to quick for my taste. They fight for so long, and then all of a sudden, BOOM, it's over. And the only bad scene was with the kid and the Oracle watching the sunrise, it was ghey.
The Bros. just weren't good enough to finish the movie. Sorry to say it, but this is a very sad moment in movie history. The first movie flipped the entertainment industry on its ear. How many people bought the Matrix just because you knew it would be an awsome movie to watch on DVD. I know I did. I liked the first the best mostly because it brought to light a concept thatI had not even dreamed of. We all live in an illusion we are really in a coma and being used as an energy source. I think a prequal would be cool to show the machines taking over the world and the architect setting up the matrix. Sort of a brainy Terminator. I liked it but then again I love all movies even Dumb and Dumber. |
SPOLIER, SPOILER, SPOLIER,SPOLIER, SPOILER, SPOLIER
I thought about this and I came to the conclusion that the movie ending any other possible way would suck. I mean, what else can they show? Why does it matter if Neo is alive or not when that thing drags him away, we know that there won't be another movie so who cares. Plus, we can't really say that the question of weather Neo is alive or not wasn't answered. Why, because it was never asked. everybody in Zion just thanked him and nobody asked of his fate, or they did and I missed it. Besides Neo's fate, what else is there to question? Do we need to know what happends to the human race, NO. Why, we know that all humans will be freed from the Matrix and that's it. Although I'd like t know what happends with the machines and everything, it would be too much to ask of the Wachowski Bros. So in all, my dissapointment is fading. |
damir dont you get it?....everything that just happened from the beginning of that specific 7th version of the matrix until when neo destroyed it and ended the war ... it was all known by the Oracle and the Architect, what they created at teh end with the sunrise and the child was the next, 8th version of the matrix
the architech willing accepted that more would be freed, and the oracle accepted that again the humans and machines would fight. the matrix will be reinhabited by the people who are in the pods, and so forth it will continue |
Yea I wanted neo to kill all the machines..
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Originally Posted by FrestyleFC3S' date='Nov 7 2003, 01:44 PM
damir dont you get it?....everything that just happened from the beginning of that specific 7th version of the matrix until when neo destroyed it and ended the war ... it was all known by the Oracle and the Architect, what they created at teh end with the sunrise and the child was the next, 8th version of the matrix
the architech willing accepted that more would be freed, and the oracle accepted that again the humans and machines would fight. the matrix will be reinhabited by the people who are in the pods, and so forth it will continue |
Originally Posted by FrestyleFC3S' date='Nov 7 2003, 01:44 PM
damir dont you get it?....everything that just happened from the beginning of that specific 7th version of the matrix until when neo destroyed it and ended the war ... it was all known by the Oracle and the Architect, what they created at teh end with the sunrise and the child was the next, 8th version of the matrix
the architech willing accepted that more would be freed, and the oracle accepted that again the humans and machines would fight. the matrix will be reinhabited by the people who are in the pods, and so forth it will continue Architect = God Maybe god should destroy the earth with all that is wrong in this world and make a World 2.0?? |
They clearly left it open for additional movies. I don't believe that Neo is dead, when they carted him away on that platform he still showed a ton of energy.
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Originally Posted by Nemesis' date='Nov 7 2003, 11:33 AM
They clearly left it open for additional movies. I don't believe that Neo is dead, when they carted him away on that platform he still showed a ton of energy.
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what im wondering is when the oracle and architect were talking was there any people running around??? Is that just a fake matrix that theyare meeting in.
Also in the first matrix it is stated that most people after childhood cannot be released from the matrix because their mind cannot comprehend it. So when the architect said "all that want to go can leave" or whatever. I was assuming the ones that were young enought to be able to cope with the fact that they've been living in a dream world. So technically there would be no real way to free everyone from the matrix without killing most of them. Hence the new matrix. |
yea and what the **** about smith taking over everyone in the goddamn matrix also, i mean if the were assimilated as neo shouldn't they all be dead? also what the **** happen to the little girl and the asian dude, it was like they got killed but the little girl showed up in the end all happy like she just smoked a blunt or some ****. and how the **** does neo kill smith by giving into the assimilation thing? i mean dude turns black then into smith then he blows up..... wtf?
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Originally Posted by mazdadrifter' date='Nov 7 2003, 11:59 AM
So technically there would be no real way to free everyone from the matrix without killing most of them. Hence the new matrix.
now if the people didn't die then the matrix woulda had to have stored a complete backup of their beings. which would make sense, but do you remember how baine had cerebral scarring? the backup restore might not take into the flesh. so at this point you would assume that the only living humans are the ones underground. now do you suppose the machines would have a back up system in place? such as a large field not jacked in but operating in a limbo, now if that's the case the machines will need all the power from them to survive the way they want, would they really be willing to give up their source of energy? basically what i'm saying is that the ending sucked more than anything in the entire world. the perfect ending would have been for neo to "jump" into smith again and destroy his code. then since he is jacked in directly at the source do some sort of "one" thing an bring the entire matrix system down, and send a massive spike through the machine world freeing mankind. that is how it should have ended. the lose of human life would have been great, but well worth the defeat of the machines. and with that ending you could still have your "artistic" bullshit and kill neo if you want. |
Movie was ghey..
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but at least she paid for it and kept me entertained suring the movie..
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Originally Posted by wraith' date='Nov 7 2003, 03:28 PM
i don't think it was a new matrix, if you think about it smith had assimilated the entire simulated world so now did the entire crop of people die with the eradication of the smith virus? if so they would need to regrow the entire new population. i think they just rebooted the matrix to reset all damages caused by the fight.
now if the people didn't die then the matrix woulda had to have stored a complete backup of their beings. which would make sense, but do you remember how baine had cerebral scarring? the backup restore might not take into the flesh. so at this point you would assume that the only living humans are the ones underground. now do you suppose the machines would have a back up system in place? such as a large field not jacked in but operating in a limbo, now if that's the case the machines will need all the power from them to survive the way they want, would they really be willing to give up their source of energy? basically what i'm saying is that the ending sucked more than anything in the entire world. the perfect ending would have been for neo to "jump" into smith again and destroy his code. then since he is jacked in directly at the source do some sort of "one" thing an bring the entire matrix system down, and send a massive spike through the machine world freeing mankind. that is how it should have ended. the lose of human life would have been great, but well worth the defeat of the machines. and with that ending you could still have your "artistic" bullshit and kill neo if you want. |
here's a question for you all.. and if you paid attention. you'll know what i'm asking.
at the very end.. when the sun is coming up.. and the oracle is sitting in the park. The Oracle turns to the little girl and asks "DID YOU DO THAT" the little girl shook her head, "yes". I DONT UNDERSTAND! who the hell was the little girl? Things i liked. Alot of nonsense from the second movie (reloaded) were cleared up. AWESOME special effects. Parts from the zion fight were amazing. All the Robots shooting into one small hole was amazing. than the sentinals broke thru... my eyes couldnt keep up. Truly ground breaking CGI Awesome final fight between Neo and Smith. i could have done without the whole "hey we can fly" gimmick, but it'll do. I like how the directors left the end "open to options" and NO neo isnt dead. atleast i dont think so. Parts i disliked. remember IMO only! Trinity...hurrm too bad on her part. maybe if she wasnt sitting in that seat? lol. oh well. she made her money during the filming. I did not understand the indian girl. what was her part exactly? that's about it. if i think of more i'll post again -Markus "All in all it's worth the money, go check it out. You'll agree" |
Here's something to think about. My friend actually thought of this but right before Neo allowsh imself to be taken over by smith and then deletes him when Smith says something along the lines of "i'm supposed to say something." and he says what the oracle says earlier, i bet what he was supposed to say was the "goodbye mr. anderson " thing that he said when he killed neo the first time in the first movie. But because he had taken over the oracle he said something different like taht.
Also, i don't know if they'll make more sequels, but i do think they will do another animatrix type thing. |
he was supposed to say.. "Do I make you horny? Do I?"
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my friend foy thinks they should have ended it with "smith" waking up as a bum, in the street, covered in vomit and urine with a 40 in his hand, sits up, and says "man, that was a crazy-ass dream!"
and then the wakouski bros. pop up and laugh at the audience |
I think the best part about the movie is that it's left everyone, in every freakin' forum i belong to, open to their own interpretation of how the movie should-have-would-have-could-have been something different. lmao
-jml |
Originally Posted by cagefreak' date='Nov 8 2003, 03:24 AM
I think the best part about the movie is that it's left everyone, in every freakin' forum i belong to, open to their own interpretation of how the movie should-have-would-have-could-have been something different. lmao
-jml Is someone a forum troll? -Markus "Call the troll police... |
Originally Posted by Dramon_Killer' date='Nov 8 2003, 02:11 AM
Here's something to think about. My friend actually thought of this but right before Neo allowsh imself to be taken over by smith and then deletes him when Smith says something along the lines of "i'm supposed to say something." and he says what the oracle says earlier, i bet what he was supposed to say was the "goodbye mr. anderson " thing that he said when he killed neo the first time in the first movie. But because he had taken over the oracle he said something different like taht.
Also, i don't know if they'll make more sequels, but i do think they will do another animatrix type thing. |
Originally Posted by relisys190' date='Nov 8 2003, 01:36 AM
[quote name='cagefreak' date='Nov 8 2003, 03:24 AM'] I think the best part about the movie is that it's left everyone, in every freakin' forum i belong to, open to their own interpretation of how the movie should-have-would-have-could-have been something different. lmao
-jml Is someone a forum troll? -Markus "Call the troll police... [/quote] "hey get you hands off me, i don't know what you're talking about. I wasn't trolling, just browsing the auto forums for the cars i actually own." *handcuffs from the troll police* lmao |
Originally Posted by cagefreak' date='Nov 8 2003, 12:54 PM
[quote name='relisys190' date='Nov 8 2003, 01:36 AM'] [quote name='cagefreak' date='Nov 8 2003, 03:24 AM'] I think the best part about the movie is that it's left everyone, in every freakin' forum i belong to, open to their own interpretation of how the movie should-have-would-have-could-have been something different. lmao
-jml Is someone a forum troll? -Markus "Call the troll police... [/quote] "hey get you hands off me, i don't know what you're talking about. I wasn't trolling, just browsing the auto forums for the cars i actually own." *handcuffs from the troll police* lmao [/quote] um "hey relisys stop ******* quoting urself in 3rd person at the end of ur posts to summarize ur posts , its getting old and stupid very VERY fast" CHEE-....bye |
WOW lots o quotes
I didnt see the movie so can someone do a quick run through for me? im trying to dl it but its not workin too well |
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