So basically the I-pod is a throw away device. Nice.

Thats fucked up.

Sounds like most companies though, making shitty enough products that they have to be replaced every so often.

same with car-makers. Why would anyone want to make a car that ran forever?? and/or ran off of a resource that could not be metered/sold to common people.



We are the worker ants that keep this ant hill going



at least i don't pay for my music

radio is free...and I couldn't view that, must be QT

LOL! That's the funniest thing I've seen all day.



I've got an answer to the ipod. It's a Sony Walkman that's almost 10 years old. I listen to it when I'm working on car stuff. It's tuned to my little FM transmitter that's hooked up to a PC in my garage. It's a P60 which can only have a small (for today's standards) hard disk (2048MB per IDE channel), but I currently have at least 24 hours worth of songs loaded into winamp's playlist.



Oh, and batteries last around one week or more depending on how much I use the walkman. (I haven't needed to buy any batteries yet).

i dont understand whats so hot about mp3 players



i have a cd player that plays cd-r



one disc has around 700 songs.......omg its too BIGH!!!!!!! EEk it wont fit in my slk320! and wont look stylish wtih my capris!

MP3, for the most part, doesn't sound very good anyway. Even high bitrate files sound bad if they were encoded with a crappy program.



I like LAME with Razorlame as a frontend to encode, and EAC to 'rip' CDs with. I tend to use high bitrate settings with VBR because CBR isn't necessary most of the time. VBR also saves file space.



My P60 can play any MP3 or LQT file that I've tried so far. It's just a little slow when programming a playlist, or taking pictures with Snappy. I'm going to upgrade to a P200 with a couple larger hard disks soon. That ought to give me several weeks worth of songs. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



I just hope it will survive when I port engines (lots of dust gets sucked into the air intakes of the computer lol). I'm sure the P60 has a nice collection of metallic dust inside it. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

um........ LQT PCKA LAME EOAI MANE LALQ POEJT JAN ABA I82 MAMNAA LKKEOAIEJABAMJSKDFHSUEAREAS





WHAT THE ****

Sorry, I've been into this stuff for many years.



Hmm, let's see here...



LAME = Lame Ain't an MP3 Endcoder (odd name, but it encodes MP3s)



EAC = Exact Audio Copy



LQT = Liquid Audio Technology



CBR = Constand Bit Rate



VBR = Variable Bit Rate



MP3 = Mpeg 1.0 Layer 3



P60 = Pentium 60 (60 MHz or Megahertz)



P200 = Pentium 200 (overclocked P166 hehe)



Don't you mean dubya tea yeff?

youre nutz

its true, the litium ion batteries or **** on those things...





Not the nice made in Japan ones...

Apple still exists? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

How ignorant was the helpdesk guy!

Customer: I have an Ipod that I bought about 18 months ago and the battery is dead on it...

Helpdesk guy: What? The battery's dead on the IPod?....How old is it?



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png

MiniDisc Recorder all dee way.

18 months is a good life span for rechargable batteries.

I would think if this was a widespread problem you would be

hearing ALOT more about it.



I have a MP3 cd changer in my car, you cant tell the difference between

a normal cd and the mp3 disks, if you can you should sell your ears to

science or something.

I've been into MP3s for several years. You can train your brain to pick up on the MPEG artifacts present in MP3 audio.

ive been into music for years, been into home theatre and car audio

as well.



I can see a track that was encoded crappy, or one that was downloaded, but

a MP3 in 196kbs is pretty damm clean.

i cant believe the battery isnt replacable. it is probably just soldered on. if it were truely irreplacable, it would have to be built into the pcb or somthing.



i bet you can unsolder the battery and solder in a new one for a couple bucks.

Apple has a battery replacement program for the iPod when the rechargable battery does die.



the iPod is also the only player that supports Dolby's AAC codec, which is pretty damn awesome. twice the sound quality at half the file size.



I'm a fan :-)

AAC, huh? That's like the LQT stuff I mentioned above. I did a quick google search with the words AAC and LQT at the same time and came up with some decent results. Here is one that has a couple things you can download. http://www.geocities.com/liquid_aac/

cool article



http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/shownot...3537249,00.html



talks about mp3's sucsessors

I like Monkey's Audio and Ogg Vorbis. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif

its called planned obseletion.



every successful company ever has put it into their products. do you really think bill gates would've made profit if there was only 1 version of windows ever.



kevin.