recently i have been debating on which car i should get. i've narrowed it down to two choices (originally being the 5.0 mustang, miata, 240, rx7, sc300, e30 bmw, e34 bmw, mk3 supra, cressida, etc)



the choices i came up with are:



the 2nd gen rx7 (n/a) and the 240sx.



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i want to drift, so i want to make some power, heres what i plan on doing



with the 240sx, i am going to drop in the infiniti vh45de v8 in (lighter than the KA) which runs somewhere around 280hp stock. i plan first to get 2 small turbos (t25 or higher) then upgrade to a t66 later. the twin turbo should run around 300-340hp. the t66 later on down the line......hahaa do i even need to say?



and with the n/a fc, im going to drop in the t2, upgrade the turbo to a gt2871 or 76r turbo, fmic, all that.



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im looking for a decent 300-350hp. ive calculated the price for both.



a running 240sx is going to cost around 1800 for the car (400 for a shell) and the vh45 i can get anywhere for even less than 1k. the 300zx tranny (n/a) costs 400 or less. altogether 3200 for the running 240 with the engine. 2600 for a non running 240 and the engine. (labor fee doesnt apply b/c my dad and i are doing it.)



then the t25's i estimate will cost around 150-300 each.





a running fc costs anywhere from 2000 up. the t2 with tranny, ecu, wiring, etc costs 2000. thats about 4000. a non running fc with the t2 will cost 3000.



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to sum it up, 240sx with a vh45 would be 3200 (previously running) or 2600 bucks (no engine prior)

ups: less than the fc,







the fc would cost 4000 (previously running) or 3000 (no engine prior)





could someone help me with my decision? thanks.

*edit*

nobody?



i kinda figured nobody would say anything because its against rotaries. thats what kinda prevented me from posting before. i just dont wanna get something i will regret. dats y i ask for opinions.



wat do you guys think?

go with the turbo fc, they can be had for much cheaper than you think search craigslist, autotrader.com and cars.com, this forum and the other rx7 forum .

i can find running turbo fc all day long for 2000 or less. granted you may want to plan an engine rebuild shortly depending on the type of power output you'd eventually like to make but still i believe $ wise you will be spending less then your other options.

That's like asking if god is real on a catholic forums, i have no insight when it comes to drifting so i dunno.

Well I have a friend who does 240sx's.... and he just bought a CLEAN, I mean CLEAN RB26DETT-swapped one with a dyno of 680hp for $18k.



But while I was looking at cars, before I decided on the FB RX-7, I was looking at a non-running 240sx for $700. Granted, the body was a little beat up, but repairable.



So how much you want to spend will depend on what you get. I saw a nice FC CONVERTABLE go for $900 on Craigslist the other day. You just have to know what you want and keep your eyes open for the deals. I missed out on that, because I DEFINATELY would've bought it.



Just do like I did. Every day search Craigslist- and not just YOUR craigslist, but all craigslists within the distance you'd be willing to travel to get a car. And every day search eBay within XXXmiles. You'll find your ride.

I would say FC just for personal reasons.





That sounds like a hell of a lot of work and labour, as opposed to...





That's also provided that the VH45DE will fit in without any added modification to the engine bay. Not really a Nissan guy, wouldn't be able to tell you.



I would say you would probably be spending more on the 240, what with the V8, and you want to run twins?



240 sounds cheaper to obtain than an FC(provided it's in good condition), but the end result might be way more money than you'd have expected. Unless of course, it has that engine in it already(VH45DE), but that you can't exactly guarantee if they did a standup job on it.



Good luck either way.





Or if a bear shits in the woods, or if the Pope is Catholic, or if Britney Spears is insane, or if Jessica Simpson putting out to Tony Romo ruined Dallas's chances in last year's NFL playoffs.................... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.gif

i think your maths are off by at least 3x... i'd plan on about 10k for either the turbo fc or 240. 240 will be a little cheaper overall, but after suspension, wheels, engine, exhaust, radiators, clutch etc etc



it would be about 4k, if you had the body, and the motor already

If I were you I would get the N/A FC. Much cheaper https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif

Buy an N/A FC. Learn about the rotary engine and the RX-7's pro's and con's. Drive it for 1 year. Sell it. Purchase TII. Do NOT swap an N/A FC to a TII. There are alot of reason's why, and the main reason is money cost and labor cost. You are taking a car that was OEM Naturally Aspirated and changing it to a TII powerplant. You will have to change out alot of things, and while you were doing that, you could've bought a TII and started modifying that with the swap money for the N/A-TII FC.



Also, you can find a running TII for less than 3k. You just have to look around and sometimes be willing to travel over 200 miles to get the car. ****, I am traveling 900 miles this month to Colorado to pick up a beat up VERY OLD Mazda. However, I am not doing some crazy ass motor swaps or racing the car. Keeping it in original condition. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif





Good luck with your choices. I hope you have alot of tools, and some knowledge of how to work on cars.

oh ive foudn fcs for less than 2k. but not a turbo model. u think u could help me find one in the new england area? (i think u must be out west or something.

see, i want to boost though, thats the catch.

nah because the vh45 is a very affordable v8, i can even show you the ad, and the place where im going to get it if i end up doing it. masworx has engine mounts for the vh45> 240 conversion pretty cheap. and the bell housing adapter for the vh45 with 300zx tranny is 400.



the tranny comes with the clutch, sticking with the normal vh45 rad for now, wheels im keeping stock for now (or taking sum rims from my brother for free) the exhaust im doing myself, and suspension mods are just lowering springs and maybe shocks for now. so my estimate is closer to fact than fiction. im getting all my figures from a guy who already did the swap (for 3200.)



im eliminating installation costs by doing it myself. i actually might get my exhaust done up at the exhaust shop nearby, straight pipes no cat. thats if i do this swap.

i like the enthusiasm, thanks! im buying a car in a month so i gotta make up my mind. very soon...



i was also thinking of doin 240's cuz my brother has one. mine would be the hatch tho. keepin a brother with sister theme would be nice : )

yeah the dude who put the engine into the 240 said there wasnt much modification needed, except of course the exhaust. but he made his own engine mounts, but he told me about masworx mounts.





well idk. but thanks for the support man. it would be absolutely sick when its done though right?





...hahaahah

thanks, and yeah my dads retiring, he started givin me his tools now, and i can use his 2 post lift whenever i feel like it! i can also use my university when i get there next year. im pretty good wit my hands so i think i kno wat im doin! but thanks again man.

but i might end up doing this and swapping a t2 :

im just being the devils advocate when i talk about the vh45 https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif

Trust me when I say it. If you are going to buy an RX-7, save the extra money and wait a few months longer and purchase a TII.





I found 2 TII's in my area for sale that are less than 3k. They had some problems and had 100K+ miles on the car, but it was still a driveable and startable car.

yeah, i know you can save here and there, but the little stuff adds up.

yeah there arent many in NE, you have to go west and or south

LMAO.



I read this:

"i want to drift, so i want to make some power, heres what i plan on doing"



and then stopped reading.



The reason, originally, thta drifting got popular was that you can do it with any type of automobile, and in fact as a firsttime drifter, which im assuming you are, everyone and there mom will tell you its better to start with a low power car.



Also, "make some power" and "n/a rx7" never go together... like ever. unless you mean like power to your subs or something.



kevin.

only n/a power you would care about is a peri-port motor, and even then it's just easier to go with something that is turbo originally.

i missed that! drifing's 90% technique, i mean the hatchi is so slow it makes the na FC look fast

seriously.



when you are a beginning drifter, the faster your car is just the faster you're going to put it into a wall because you have no idea whats going on and it gets away from you.



whatever you get, start out with a seat, diff, and suspension. thats all you need to learn and you can move up to big boy power when you figure out how to use it.



NA fc will force you to learn how to drive it right. its a tough bitch.



turbo fc is slightly easier cause the powers there but fc's are still pretty twitchy by nature so again it forces you to learn how to drive it right.



240's are cake. so easy. torque is there, long wheelbase, great stock steering angle. and theyre a dime a dozen when you do **** something up.





honestly, you have too many plans. go out, test drive a 240, test drive a fc. pick whichever you like better.

then apply the basic diff, seat and coilovers, and then drive it. from there, start planning on what else you want to modify to make the car how you want it.

my opinion is drifting is dumb

also true.



but its also fun.

That is true... a friend of mine had an AE86... he let me drive it ONCE... and never again... every time we turned I got it sideways. Drifting is a pointless motorsport, it is all based on judges... but it's fun as hell to do.

So yeah. Came back to this thread. Realized that my reply should have had this in it, which was basically said by others, but...



If this is your first time, seriously. Low power car, start small, and learn to respect it. You'd really hate to have to do all that work to your dream 240 and then put it into the wall on the first corner.

to answer everyone saying that i should start out basic...thats what i planned. you dont think i could come up with enough money for all that **** right now do you?? haha im 16 right now. thats what i would do.



thanks for the help though. the 240 seems more versatile for drifting and i think i might switch to an fc later when i have money to invest in one.



but no thanks for the drifting is dumb comments. thats your opinion. lets not get into that argument.

You want to know what's dumb? NASCAR.

personally i find breathing pretty ludicrous.



kevin.