whats the difference between "good" gas and "cheap" gas. not octane level, but company/station wise.

it's all the same, isnt it?

what is the amount of water?

There are 2 possibilities.

The first is you are getting a mixture of all the popular brands. What they do is sell off their "bottom 1/3" of their holding tanks. due to possible high concentrations of sediments that sink to the bottom.

The second option, there are some privatly owned refineries that sell to anyone.

When you own a "name brand" station, you are forced to buy gas from the distributor they tell you to, and you pay whatever they want you to, thus causing the high price. The "no-name" or "independent" stations, have the freedom to call as many distributors as they wish and negotiate price. This is why "cheap" gas is "cheap"

All gas has to conform to a set standard. It's all good.

I did a search but could not find. There is a test BMW does every year or so and they give a run down of what they feel are the best gas brands to use in their cars.



I wish I could find it. Citgo is always #1 followed by the big boys.. Hess Shell Mobil etc..



I am always weary of the independant places I am always afraid that one bad tank could screw my car.

One supports the mid-east, the other does not..(?)

here is a little "insider info"



"cheap gas" is fine for your everyday car. For a sports car I would reccomend you stay away, just because of octane levels and things.

oh and alot of the private refinaries are controlled by the russians!. Russian mob to be exact. I've had 20 or so companies come to my place to try and get us to switch to a different brand of gas, all 20 reps all told me this. It's ze russians! they are in control

so for my FD stay away from delta, us gas, etc, correct?

I thought different companies had different additives (i.e. detergents and the such). But I could be wrong. I only use shell or 76. Chevron is too expensive for me and I don't like anything else. Cheapy gas doesn't settle well with me, companies want to be competitive, so why would they let another company undersell them if its all the same?



That and 76 is different (at least out here) since it has to MTBE in it and every other station does.

My dilemma.



Daily Driver - Mini Cooper - Supercharged - Premium only 25MPG City Driving

Wifes Daily Driver - Audi A-6 - V-6 BiTurbo - Premium Only - 25MPG City Driving

RX-7 - What do you think? 14 MPG



Premium around here is 2.15 a gallon at the Citgo on the corner.

Ouch!!!



The funny part was I was contemplating getting a Honda Civic hybrid for my wife when we decided on the Audi.

Funny story about that, me and and my g/f went up north for a weak, and we stopped by this indian reservation gas station. We went there to get gas and the funny thing is that they were refilling there gas storage things at the gas station, and we could see them just loading their gas with all sorts of additives, there was even a guy with a garden hose spraying it into the hole they were filling with gas WITH water. so me and my girlfriend were like, well **** that, so we left. Alaska can come to, THE END!!!



P.S. Fuckng Indians ripping people off with their cheap ass gas.

25mpg isnt bad, 14 is though, lean it out, or you drive like an animal!

My daily driver is the mini pickup- 30mpg in the city

Girls daily driver the MPI mini sportpack 35mpg in the city

My FD- who knows



Today I filled up the pickup and it was about $6.50 for 3 1/2 gallons of regular. That will last me another 100 miles throughout the week in town going back and forth to school.

HA! My daily is my 7 which I drive like an idiot so I get something like 18 mpg. Regular here is $2.27. Thats the cheapest I found without going to the cheapy places. The average price for regular is something like $2.32. Good thing I don't need any premium at 2.50 a gallon.

ther was a special about gas a while back. one of the funny things they said is that the gas companies use a pipe infastructure to get gas to general areas where they will fiil up the tankers east coast west and mid west. they come out of their refinaries in texas say mobil will put in 2,000,000 gal to go to the west coast so at that distribution spot on the west coast mobil tankers will pull out 2,000,000 gal of fuel. nobody is exactly sure that it is only mobil's fuel coming out and not a mix of chevron,texaco or whatever as they do not purge the lines in between shipments. same thing with natural gas. they say the octanes ship in seperate pipes. fwiw