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Baldy 12-01-2003 12:43 PM

I've seen 2 mazda navajo's, that look exactly like the early explorers...what was up with this SUV? Seemed odd to me. I mean, did sales flop? I've never heard of this thing, besides the 2 that I've seen on the road (which may have been the same vehicle).

amp 12-01-2003 12:58 PM

toyota currently leads in global sales over ford and other manufacturers...

j9fd3s 12-01-2003 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Baldy' date='Dec 1 2003, 10:43 AM
I've seen 2 mazda navajo's, that look exactly like the early explorers...what was up with this SUV? Seemed odd to me. I mean, did sales flop? I've never heard of this thing, besides the 2 that I've seen on the road (which may have been the same vehicle).

heres a brief history of the mazda pickup



from the early 70's to 84 the mada pickup was also sold as the ford courier.



the 86-93* pickup was mazda only as ford had their own ranger



94-current, the mazda pickup is a rebadged ford ranger



from 90-94 mazda sold a 2 door explorer as the navajo, if you see one please burn it, the 90-94 explorer is a truely awful car. whoever designed it and approved the design should be stoned.

Eric Happy Meal 12-01-2003 01:24 PM

vw also owns bentley. and most vw and porsche parts are interchangeable. also i thought i read something about mazda not making the rx-7 anymore, could it be because it would harm the mustangs sales so ford said no to it?

TYSON 12-01-2003 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Dec 1 2003, 01:20 PM
we heard that when they were tooling up to make the 2000mpv's (designed and assembled by mazda with the duratech pos v6), that when the made in america engines showed up they refused to put them into the cars. they had to remove the usa markings before the japanese would put that engine in their minivan.



mike

Yet they are more than happy to put them in the Tribute, and other Ford engines in the B series? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif



Pretty amusing. Sounds mostly like racism to me.

j9fd3s 12-01-2003 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Dec 1 2003, 02:59 PM
Yet they are more than happy to put them in the Tribute, and other Ford engines in the B series? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif



Pretty amusing. Sounds mostly like racism to me.

the tribute was designed by mazda, but its built in the usa. the mpv is built in japan. i dunno if its racism, id be insulted if someone sent me a ford motor

TYSON 12-01-2003 05:09 PM

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Robbomaz 12-02-2003 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Nov 30 2003, 04:06 PM
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Exactly how many times have you watched "Conspiracy Theory"? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



Pepsi is actually far larger than Coke, as they own several restaurant chains and snack food heavyweights.



General Motors is larger than Ford. I don't think Ford builds many tanks or locomotives. Their Ford Credit department keeps them close in overall revenue.

The greater part of my working day is not spent on rotaries https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png but doing electrical engineering work on product we build here for GE Power Systems. The interesting inside info that comes my way on that is that the piddling little $1.3 million apiece lube units we make for the $35 million apiece turbines GEPS make are small fry in the GE group. The GE Finance arm produces 57% of GE revenue!



Never judge a company by what it appears to be...

Robbomaz 12-02-2003 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by DomLee' date='Nov 30 2003, 11:36 PM
I read an article this week, that said that Ford was having some financial problems (maybe it was the Ford Europe or it may have been Ford USA, not sure), but upon hearing about it,...I instantly thought of the affect it could have on Mazda. Mazda has done amazingly well. Strong sales. Excellent product line that "excite" customers. But despite the profitibility,...Mazda is still partially owned by Ford. Will be interesting to see how this may affect further development of the rotary/RX-8/RX-7...

If Mazda is performing strongly management can argue the money should be retained in the company to continue the momentum.

If the group operates like the international I work for all divisions are required to be profitable in their own right, but a strong performer may be used to assist a weaker link, by way of an internal loan. The money generated by a division still remains at the divisions disposal and the loan must be repaid.

Asset stripping is sometimes a risk with cowboy management, but Ford do not have enough of Mazda to be able to do that, even if they wanted to.

Interesting comments re China

China is seen as the 'holy grail' (thru sheer population numbers if nothing else). We have a startup manufacturing facility in China, still in it's first year. Has been interesting work!


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