i was @ university tonight talking w/ some fd owners and damn, they each had like 400hp and so nice! when he punched it it wannted to go sideways, he had 275s on it too! then a mustang challenged him and i tried to follow, the stang had 400hp too, i told the stang drive i would put 100 cash on the fd. i know it won but damn i wannted to see it!!! i love those cars!!!! im goona get one next summer i think.

400 hp stang vs 400hp FD... dunno would be a good race....

prolly come down to driver.... hard to say though....



but yeah I love those damn FD's!! Got to get me one!!!

i'm impressed w/ how light fox body stangs are... just thought i'd throw in my .02, drunkin 02 at that

yeah if you ever run up against a turbo 2.3 coupe 5 spd and he is running 18lbs of boost your going to have your hands full!!!



Thought about doing that with my coupe.... that and an intercooler with just a T3/T4 hyrid turbo 13 flat...... not bad for a 2000 dollar car! lol

With a Stang I think I would do twin T-4's...THAT would be bad ass. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif

With a Stang I think I would do twin T-4's...THAT would be bad ass. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif[/quote]

They do some pretty badass turbo setups on Mustangs.

I thought you were going to make your car fast? why don't you finish one thing before you start on another?

I thought you were going to make your car fast? why don't you finish one thing before you start on another?[/quote]

ahah, i can't win. yes i am going to make mine fast, im just so jealous of those sexy fd bodies. I'll probably just stick w/ my car, its just a FD pipe dream https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Yeah you can do some really crazy stuff to the stangs and not have to worry much about reliablity.



And they don't cost too terribly much.



I still love my rotaries.

I think that on the launch the FD would probably win since the wight ...but if on a roll, they should be equal...



I saw a vid of a 1000+ hp Stang...It did 2 WHEELIES going down the strip...ran a 9.68...now that's bad ass https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Why does everyone think that anything you do to a V8 is cheap?

Why does everyone think that anything you do to a V8 is cheap?[/quote]

because a lot of people have never messed with a V8 before



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Why does everyone think that anything you do to a V8 is cheap?[/quote]

because a lot of people have never messed with a V8 before



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png[/quote]

Yeah, I know, but they shouldn't talk if they don't know anything about it.

Why does everyone think that anything you do to a V8 is cheap?[/quote]



I was refering to the cost of the mustang itself, not modding the engine itself https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



Stroking, boring, milling and blue printing an engine costs a mint. So do the nice high ratio rockers, a funky engle cam and all the other nifty things.



Come to think of it, it costs a lot to mod a VW engine right to. Cima pistons and barrels, Berg 041 heads...Whooo hoOO!

Why does everyone think that anything you do to a V8 is cheap?[/quote]



I was refering to the cost of the mustang itself, not modding the engine itself https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



Stroking, boring, milling and blue printing an engine costs a mint. So do the nice high ratio rockers, a funky engle cam and all the other nifty things.



Come to think of it, it costs a lot to mod a VW engine right to. Cima pistons and barrels, Berg 041 heads...Whooo hoOO![/quote]

A well built V8 can easily run way past $10,000. For $10,000 you could build a great rotary motor AND have money left over for a turbo setup and ECU.

Oh heck yeah, it gets up there in a hurry. Lovely thing about the rotary is no cams and crap to worry about. Just drill bigger holes and POOF!



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Some V8's can have some fairly low cost things done to great affect and not hurt reliablity all that much, but after a certain point it's gonna get REAL costly.



Like I said, I like my rotary engines.

Fd would win if not anything but the weight differance, also on the highway the mustang has no chance, can't rev

oh yeah and getting a mustang up to 400hp is'nt that hard, or expensive either

Well hell I am looking into buying 200 CC heads and intake manifold. With bigger injectors and an MAF meter I will be at or past the 350 mark... which means roughly 1100 in parts...



Also Revving does mean something but remember a V8's powerband.



Do dismiss The V8 so quickly....

I mean most of my power is ontap from 3400 and up... but a significant amount is still there down low....



Dont get me wrong I love rotaries and I love RX7's. But a 400hp mustang is also unlikely to quit revving at 5400rpm. **** I got mine setup to run to about 5800rpms. Which buys me a bit more... and has won several races for me... but..... a 400hp mustang probably is going to rev to 6500rpms or so or at least thats what I have seen at the track. Rebuilding a V8 isnt cheap but it isnt that expensive either.... When you can buy a 600hp 514 BB Ford motor for 5200 bux that aint bad.. and that is around 500+ ft lbs of torque also.... that right there is easy 10's....



So I think this race would be a good one.....

also had to put this in here..... a 5.0L coupe 5 spd back in 88 and 89 weighed less than 3000lbs.... around 3050lbs with a fat driver and full tank of gas.... Not too shabby....



Right now if I had a chance to buy a car for under or at 20k it would be an FD.... Those are just ******* badass.... lol and got to admit something about beating a V8 with 1.3liters.... lol Remember I am not a Full blown V8 guy.... I still want to do a turbo 2.3 for my 89 Coupe..... Which would be a lot of fun that car handles pretty well... better than my 89 GT....

Uh I guess that 1000 lpd difference doesn't mean anything to you huh?



I think it's safe to say the RX7 would kill the 'stang.

Uh I guess that 1000 lpd difference doesn't mean anything to you huh?



I think it's safe to say the RX7 would kill the 'stang.[/quote]

yah the stang driver had 4 ppl in his car too! ahah https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

Please get your 7 already so I can stop reading about how fast your mustang is.

Cause it ain't that fast .

Uh I guess that 1000 lpd difference doesn't mean anything to you huh?



I think it's safe to say the RX7 would kill the 'stang.[/quote]

How much does a FD weight anyhow?

Uh I guess that 1000 lpd difference doesn't mean anything to you huh?



I think it's safe to say the RX7 would kill the 'stang.[/quote]

How much does a FD weight anyhow?[/quote]

About 2800 pounds.

My mustang really isnt that fast to be honest.. I dont consider a 14 sec timeslip that great. I will say I am a good driver though. And the driver sometimes is the race.



I love 7's and I do plan on getting on. But right now I will run what I have which is a stang.



A good driver in an FD will kill me. But a bad driver in an FD and I will kill him.



Never said my stang was so fast anyway.....



And only the Mustang Convertibles from 87-93 could even come close to 3800... Most tend to be between 2900-3400lbs. Now my convertible does weigh in on the 3600 lb mark... and trust me you feel the weight in cornering. Which is why I love 7's. But there is more to a race than HP and TQ figures.... High revs gets you nothing if you fall out of your powerband. V8's dont need to rev sky high to be fast. Due to the nice fat tq curve most have (with exception to Chevy 305's and 86 Mustang GT's) Though I know most Rx7's like to keep pulling and pulling. I drove one and was pretty impressed. A lot of fun to drive!

Just dont think I am here braggin about my stang. Because believe me I am not. It has given me some troubles. But for being as heavy it is it is fairly quick (though not now thanks the cylinder head)

I'm not trying to bust balls man ..just calling it like I saw it . Thats all.





White flag...

And for the engines you will blow up while the V8 keeps on running. :(



Must be nice to be able to hear your car ping and go "****, I should retard the timing a bit"...

ok... just didnt want people thinking that I think that my stang is the fastest or best thing around because honestly it is far from it. Right now it is barely rated above POS to me. I enjoy the power. I enjoy the pull from the motor. But a mustang and an RX7 just arent in the same league.... especially when compared to an FD.. Dont get me wrong I love mustangs. But compare a 94 Mustang Cobra to a 94 FD. FD while to be honest is a bit harder to work on and dont shoot me guys but from what I have noticed it also is a bit less reliable. BUT! The car itself seems more mature than a mustang which is usually brute v8 power in a somewhat rough ride. Mustangs are about motor. FD rx7's just seem on the next step up.



But I wont give up my stangs. I love them. But I am beginning to love RX7's more.

And for the engines you will blow up while the V8 keeps on running. :(



Must be nice to be able to hear your car ping and go "****, I should retard the timing a bit"...[/quote]

Yeah, I like my rotaries, but I know they have their limitations. My old neighbor was getting pinging in his GN last summer, but after numerous times it's still running very well.

And for the engines you will blow up while the V8 keeps on running. :(



Must be nice to be able to hear your car ping and go "****, I should retard the timing a bit"...[/quote]

Yeah, I like my rotaries, but I know they have their limitations. My old neighbor was getting pinging in his GN last summer, but after numerous times it's still running very well.[/quote]

i like my rotaries too, its gotten to the point where i don't remember how a piston engine works



mike

And for the engines you will blow up while the V8 keeps on running. :(



Must be nice to be able to hear your car ping and go "****, I should retard the timing a bit"...[/quote]

Yeah, I like my rotaries, but I know they have their limitations. My old neighbor was getting pinging in his GN last summer, but after numerous times it's still running very well.[/quote]

i like my rotaries too, its gotten to the point where i don't remember how a piston engine works



mike[/quote]

ahah, me2 i hope i never have to learn either B)

I need a 7.... anyone donating one to a good cause??? LOL*

And for the engines you will blow up while the V8 keeps on running. :(



Must be nice to be able to hear your car ping and go "****, I should retard the timing a bit"...[/quote]

Yeah, I like my rotaries, but I know they have their limitations. My old neighbor was getting pinging in his GN last summer, but after numerous times it's still running very well.[/quote]

i like my rotaries too, its gotten to the point where i don't remember how a piston engine works



mike[/quote]

Ha. My first car was a rotary. I never had to know what a piston was.