NoPistons -Mazda Rx7 & Rx8 Rotary Forum

NoPistons -Mazda Rx7 & Rx8 Rotary Forum (https://www.nopistons.com/)
-   Insert BS here (https://www.nopistons.com/insert-bs-here-12/)
-   -   Fd Ls1 Video.... (https://www.nopistons.com/insert-bs-here-12/fd-ls1-video-41131/)

l8t apex 06-27-2004 09:23 AM

Maybe you guys have seen this before I just came across it.Man ..some NOS it would be even hotter.....you know ...if you were into pistons and stuff.



http://www.bama.ua.edu/~hinso007/Pro...acingSmall.wmv

Fd3BOOST 06-27-2004 10:36 AM

Im sorry butthe LS1 just weirds me out when you hear it in a FD. They go fast but it's just odd.

ColinRX7 06-27-2004 10:41 AM

Nice work but I'm not really impressed by people and their continuous efforts to put LS1 motors in absolutely everything within site and then demand respect when it's finished.

mazdaspeed7 06-27-2004 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by ColinRX7' date='Jun 27 2004, 11:41 AM
Nice work but I'm not really impressed by people and their continuous efforts to put LS1 motors in absolutely everything within site and then demand respect when it's finished.

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

l8t apex 06-27-2004 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by ColinRX7' date='Jun 27 2004, 10:41 AM
Nice work but I'm not really impressed by people and their continuous efforts to put LS1 motors in absolutely everything within site and then demand respect when it's finished.

You mean like this????

"DEVILS ADVOCATE" https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

l8t apex 06-27-2004 11:35 AM

and this

CGeek2k 06-27-2004 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Jun 27 2004, 09:36 AM
Im sorry butthe LS1 just weirds me out when you hear it in a FD. They go fast but it's just odd.

I agree. You get used to the distinct sound of a rotary. Seeing an FD and hearing a V8 is like seeing a hot chick with a mans voice.

Dysfnctnl85 06-27-2004 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by CGeek2k' date='Jun 27 2004, 02:21 PM
I agree. You get used to the distinct sound of a rotary. Seeing an FD and hearing a V8 is like seeing a hot chick with a mans voice.

Perfect simile for how I feel about LS1 swaps!

1Revvin7 06-27-2004 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by l8t apex' date='Jun 27 2004, 11:35 AM
You mean like this????

"DEVILS ADVOCATE" https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

? That truck has a supercharged 20b in it.....

Dysfnctnl85 06-27-2004 01:28 PM

This video tricks my eyes...I hear a Corvette but see an FD...

Midnightdriver 06-27-2004 02:38 PM

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png nope don't like it, he could have had a faster car by using a 20b. or building a good REW, but I guess he just didn't want to do any research on the rotary and just figured he be a retard and destroy another 7 with an ls1 swap.

BrandonDrecksage 06-27-2004 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by CGeek2k' date='Jun 27 2004, 01:21 PM
I agree. You get used to the distinct sound of a rotary. Seeing an FD and hearing a V8 is like seeing a hot chick with a mans voice.

I don't think you can say a women with a mans voice...because I love the way both of them sound

mazdaspeed7 06-27-2004 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by BrandonDrecksage' date='Jun 27 2004, 04:00 PM
I don't think you can say a women with a mans voice...because I love the way both of them sound

You like women with mens voices?! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png

ColinRX7 06-27-2004 04:21 PM

LMFAO

drunkin_idiot 06-27-2004 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by mazdaspeed7' date='Jun 27 2004, 01:41 PM

YOU DONT?... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png

Jeff20B 06-27-2004 05:01 PM

That launch at 5,500 RPM wasn't that impressive. I agree that a 20B would have been better. They sound better too. http://www.geocities.com/cd23c/sounds.html



He went from a turbo to NA. Isn't that a step in the wrong direction? I guess it's sort of a given going from rotors to pistons, but there are V8 turbo kits out there. Better yet, SC kits... maybe I shouldn't encourage him.



Heh, his nifty coil-on-plug action can't make up for the fact that it takes 8 pistons to accomplish what two rotors can do (albeit forced induction on two rotors, but at least COP is not required lol).

mazdaspeed7 06-27-2004 05:20 PM

I wish I had coil on plug ignition

Fluid Dynamics 06-28-2004 12:10 AM

I would rather fab in a whipple twin screw compressor onto the REW block than mess around with the LS1. An autorotor, whipple, or lysholm will make the wankel drive like a V8, but keep the rotary sound and add a sort of jet engine whine sound on top of it.



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif My FC NA is going to have this sound, I don't care when, but I've got $ and fab shop access. Nothing's gonna stop me!

Leetheslacker 06-28-2004 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by Fluid Dynamics' date='Jun 28 2004, 01:10 AM
I would rather fab in a whipple twin screw compressor onto the REW block than mess around with the LS1. An autorotor, whipple, or lysholm will make the wankel drive like a V8, but keep the rotary sound and add a sort of jet engine whine sound on top of it.



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif My FC NA is going to have this sound, I don't care when, but I've got $ and fab shop access. Nothing's gonna stop me!

take pics! tons of em!

l8t apex 06-28-2004 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Fluid Dynamics' date='Jun 28 2004, 12:10 AM
I would rather fab in a whipple twin screw compressor onto the REW block than mess around with the LS1. An autorotor, whipple, or lysholm will make the wankel drive like a V8, but keep the rotary sound and add a sort of jet engine whine sound on top of it.



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif My FC NA is going to have this sound, I don't care when, but I've got $ and fab shop access. Nothing's gonna stop me!

You mean like this.......been done but they have been winning going turbo.

Fluid Dynamics 06-28-2004 08:11 AM

Lol, that's a drawthrough carb camden roots setup, which is totally inferior to a throttled, intercooled twin screw and efi setup. They look similar, but there are three types of superchargers and various brands of each. What is pictured there is one of the least efficient brands of the least efficient type of superchargers, and no intercooler. Of course they are winning with a turbosupercharger compared to that thing. I'll bet the turbo setup has intercooling, and it's basically the same as the as an exhaust driven centrifugal supercharger, which blows a roots blower out of the water for efficiency.



Intake temps would be above 200 at about 7 psi for what's in ur picture. Hot air does not = power. A twin screw with intercooling has the benefits of high boost efficiency (charge density, meaning low intake temps for a given psi) but with instant boost availability and a brick shaped boost profile - full boost available very low in the power band. It's like getting the best of turbo with the best of supercharging: high boost efficiency and high boost capability with instant throttle response and full boost arriving early in the power band. Not to mention no restriction in the exhaust system . .



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif

l8t apex 06-28-2004 08:38 AM

Just questioning your thoughts: if so even when Paxton came out with its blower for the FC it didnt fly. why? My guess, cause I dont know, but I did have one in hand, was due to the limited boost and the parasitic drag it take to use them. With an I.C. how much boost can a blower made for rotary make?Then how much HP is used to turn a big one/geared blower?I think it would be awsome to have one that wold produce awsome numbers.

That pic was from Rotary Performance (Garland, TX )around 1994.

Jeff20B 06-28-2004 12:20 PM

Whipple Chargers are so cool! I know a guy puting one on a 20B.

Fluid Dynamics 06-28-2004 06:48 PM

The paxton centrifugal kit had no intercooling and ran 7ish psi. I've seen a few web sites with stock port FC NA's using the paxton kit and mild exhaust mods (header and highflow cat) dynoing 220-230 rwhp. Again, their intake temps were high, a few tens of degrees lower than 200 which is hot if you ask me. Plumbing a paxton supercharger like a normal turbo with fmic and even water injection + a little more timing advance would show a substantial improvement in the rwhp for the same boost psi.



As for my little pipe dream, I'll be trying to get my hands on a Millenia twin screw lysholm oem supercharger. It is similar to the whipple and almost as efficient, and substantially better than a comparable roots. The Millenia S engine is 2.3l and makes 200 hp at 5500 rpm. It makes 210+ foot pounds of torque at roughly 3500 rpm. It would be proper to use a Mazda twin screw compressor on a Mazda rotary engine. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:48 PM.


© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands