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phinsup 09-08-2008 01:49 PM

So what's your feeling outdated? As useful as ever? DISCUSS

1988RedT2 09-08-2008 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by phinsup' post='907595' date='Sep 8 2008, 02:49 PM
So what's your feeling outdated? As useful as ever? DISCUSS



I'm familiar with the basic concept, but I do not feel qualified to debate at this time. I will have to do some research first.

phinsup 09-08-2008 02:53 PM

ha ha, ok well I'm not buyin that, but here's the breakdown http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_Col...(United_States)



it has only failed to represent the popular vote a handful of times, the 2000 Bush/Gore election was one such instance, Gore had the popular vote, Bush had the electoral votes.

j9fd3s 09-08-2008 03:08 PM

i really dont see why we need it?

phinsup 09-08-2008 03:28 PM

I see some of the arguments for it, but I think it's time it goes away. The only real valid argument i have seen for it, is that it could trigger massive recounts, i only see this really happing in tight areas, not nationwide and I think it would be easy to move in a direction away from the electoral college.



Americans vote, Diebold decides!

Baldy 09-08-2008 03:36 PM

I think it's currently stupid and outdated.

1988RedT2 09-08-2008 03:51 PM

As we are a "federation of independent states", the Electoral College makes good sense, even today. It keeps smaller states from being completely superfluous to a national election, and I think that's a good thing. I feel it also limits the damage that can be done via fraudulent voting.



Also, I tend not to favor tampering with the constitution, on the assumption that even though its over 200 years old, the only thing we're likely to accomplish by changing it is to **** it up.

phinsup 09-08-2008 04:02 PM

It's based on population though, isn't it? The number of electoral votes you get is based on your state population, so how does help smaller state from being superfluous?

1988RedT2 09-08-2008 04:13 PM

Well, to plagiarize the wiki:



Maintains the federal character of the nation



The United States of America is a federal coalition which consists of component states. Proponents of the current system argue that the collective opinion of even a small state merits attention at the federal level greater than that given to a small, though numerically-equivalent, portion of a very populous state.



For many years early in the nation's history, up until the Jacksonian Era, many states appointed their electors by a vote of the state legislature, and proponents argue that, in the end, the election of the President must still come down to the decisions of each state, or the federal nature of the United States will give way to a single massive, centralized government.[43]

phinsup 09-08-2008 06:08 PM

Err, ok if that makes sense to you, then I'm with you LOL


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