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I thought this was really a eye opener:
I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the Government distributes my tax money as they see fit. In order to hold my job I have to take a random urine drug test. I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people that don't have to pass a urine drug test to get welfare or other public assistance. If I have to pass a urine drug test to keep my job, shouldn't one have to pass a urine drug test to get public assistance? Please understand I do not have a problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do have a problem with helping people sit on their butt and do nothing. Can you imagine the money the government would save if the people had to pass a urine drug test to get a public assistance or welfare check? |
yeah wtf why is it the good people always get to miss out on all the fun things j/k but you are right its fucked up they should drug test people who get free money and not the ones who work for it i just wish pot was legal
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Yeah throw rotaryvillian in jail.
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I've been on the wrong side of that argument for years!
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Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='852313' date='Jan 8 2007, 04:57 PM
I thought this was really a eye opener: I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the Government distributes my tax money as they see fit. In order to hold my job I have to take a random urine drug test. I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people that don't have to pass a urine drug test to get welfare or other public assistance. If I have to pass a urine drug test to keep my job, shouldn't one have to pass a urine drug test to get public assistance? Please understand I do not have a problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do have a problem with helping people sit on their butt and do nothing. Can you imagine the money the government would save if the people had to pass a urine drug test to get a public assistance or welfare check? See what you are saying makes a whole lot of sense & that is the part that are "brilliant" government has problems with.......making sense! |
Makes a good point. Also the fucked up judicial system. If I get hit with a DUI or speeding,etc. I get a huge fine, jail time, probation whatever the judge decides.
Paris Hilton gets hit with the same thing, she does'nt get ****. The judicial system is fucked, everybody should be treated fairly when on trial, but I guess money rules this world. Or at least the United States. |
Originally Posted by nismo convert' post='852320' date='Jan 8 2007, 08:38 PM
Yeah throw rotaryvillian in jail. |
yer the boss, why do you make yourself take a drug test?
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it was a email I got, I can look at it worse, I pay double the taxes you guys pay and that money goes to whoever the **** they want it to
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Originally Posted by nismo convert' post='852320' date='Jan 8 2007, 05:38 PM
Yeah throw rotaryvillian in jail. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif they have more drugs in jail than they do on the outside! smoke treez 24/7 bitchezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...nkeedance2.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...nkeedance2.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...nkeedance2.gif |
Its my 200th post assholes and I"M TAKIN A BONGHIT TO CELEBRATE FIGURED THIS THReAD WOULD BE BEST TO CELEBRATE https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683380.gif
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your too cool dude- smoke on!
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good job there, it still reads 199... FAIL
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Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='852313' date='Jan 8 2007, 04:57 PM
I thought this was really a eye opener: I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the Government distributes my tax money as they see fit. In order to hold my job I have to take a random urine drug test. I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people that don't have to pass a urine drug test to get welfare or other public assistance. If I have to pass a urine drug test to keep my job, shouldn't one have to pass a urine drug test to get public assistance? Please understand I do not have a problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do have a problem with helping people sit on their butt and do nothing. Can you imagine the money the government would save if the people had to pass a urine drug test to get a public assistance or welfare check? Well dont generalize too much, my family was on welfare since i was a young kid in Brooklyn. We got WIC checks for Cereal, Milk and Baby Products. We also had foodstamps in the order of $500 to get food for the month. Dont assume everyone on welfare is just a ghetto ass person using drugs. Shame on you guys. We used welfare for what it was for. We use it for food and housing, we then moved to Queens into a section 8 apartment, once the kids (us) were old enough to work, we began working and helping pay for our own food and what not. We then took ourselves off of WELFARE, since we already reached a point in our family where we could sustain ourselves without the help of the US Government. Now my Moms/fams owns a beautiful house in Baldwin Long Island, i work two jobs and pay my taxes, my brother is in the Miltary and will be working for the NYPD. My older sister works for a Hotel and is married, and my little sister is finishing up school. So yeah some people abuse welfare, and we had to bust our asses just to prove that we were poor. In a sense im still using PUBLIC Assistance since they are paying for my college education. I got accepted to St Johns University, Manhattan COllege etc, but could not afford to pay half the tuition myself, even with assistance, so i opted to go to the City College of NY, part of the City University of NY. So i get PELL and TAP (Tuition Assistance Program) from NY state, something that your tax and my tax is going to fund, and i think is beneficial for the people that actually use it NOT ABUSE IT. So yeah we know most of the ppl on welfare do abuse it, and dont take advantage of the help and just see it as free money, but its not free money its TAX PAYERS money that me , and you and everyone pays. They have begun to introduce work programs so people on welfare that receive WELFARE have to work for the city doing such jobs as Traffic Cops, Social Workers, Janitors etc, so they are reforming it, its not as it was 20 years ago. The system is slowly getting better. So its not as bad as u think rob Jason NYC |
Originally Posted by toplessFC3Sman' post='852396' date='Jan 9 2007, 12:46 PM
good job there, it still reads 199... FAIL Yer brain on drugs yo!! |
Originally Posted by ROTARYROCKET7' post='852407' date='Jan 9 2007, 01:25 PM
Well dont generalize too much, my family was on welfare since i was a young kid in Brooklyn. We got WIC checks for Cereal, Milk and Baby Products. We also had foodstamps in the order of $500 to get food for the month. Dont assume everyone on welfare is just a ghetto ass person using drugs. Shame on you guys. We used welfare for what it was for. We use it for food and housing, we then moved to Queens into a section 8 apartment, once the kids (us) were old enough to work, we began working and helping pay for our own food and what not. We then took ourselves off of WELFARE, since we already reached a point in our family where we could sustain ourselves without the help of the US Government. Now my Moms/fams owns a beautiful house in Baldwin Long Island, i work two jobs and pay my taxes, my brother is in the Miltary and will be working for the NYPD. My older sister works for a Hotel and is married, and my little sister is finishing up school. So yeah some people abuse welfare, and we had to bust our asses just to prove that we were poor. In a sense im still using PUBLIC Assistance since they are paying for my college education. I got accepted to St Johns University, Manhattan COllege etc, but could not afford to pay half the tuition myself, even with assistance, so i opted to go to the City College of NY, part of the City University of NY. So i get PELL and TAP (Tuition Assistance Program) from NY state, something that your tax and my tax is going to fund, and i think is beneficial for the people that actually use it NOT ABUSE IT. So yeah we know most of the ppl on welfare do abuse it, and dont take advantage of the help and just see it as free money, but its not free money its TAX PAYERS money that me , and you and everyone pays. They have begun to introduce work programs so people on welfare that receive WELFARE have to work for the city doing such jobs as Traffic Cops, Social Workers, Janitors etc, so they are reforming it, its not as it was 20 years ago. The system is slowly getting better. So its not as bad as u think rob Jason NYC yes but the crackheads raping the welfare and free money system dont DESERVE the money, cause their crackheads. Obviously your mom must've been a standup person to manage that situation, and therefore *deserved* the assistance. The point of this topic is that a drug test would help get rid of people who arent trying to get on their feet and are just drug wastes. kevin. |
Originally Posted by ROTARYROCKET7' post='852407' date='Jan 9 2007, 02:25 PM
Well dont generalize too much, my family was on welfare since i was a young kid in Brooklyn. We got WIC checks for Cereal, Milk and Baby Products. We also had foodstamps in the order of $500 to get food for the month. Dont assume everyone on welfare is just a ghetto ass person using drugs. Shame on you guys. We used welfare for what it was for. We use it for food and housing, we then moved to Queens into a section 8 apartment, once the kids (us) were old enough to work, we began working and helping pay for our own food and what not. We then took ourselves off of WELFARE, since we already reached a point in our family where we could sustain ourselves without the help of the US Government. Now my Moms/fams owns a beautiful house in Baldwin Long Island, i work two jobs and pay my taxes, my brother is in the Miltary and will be working for the NYPD. My older sister works for a Hotel and is married, and my little sister is finishing up school. So yeah some people abuse welfare, and we had to bust our asses just to prove that we were poor. In a sense im still using PUBLIC Assistance since they are paying for my college education. I got accepted to St Johns University, Manhattan COllege etc, but could not afford to pay half the tuition myself, even with assistance, so i opted to go to the City College of NY, part of the City University of NY. So i get PELL and TAP (Tuition Assistance Program) from NY state, something that your tax and my tax is going to fund, and i think is beneficial for the people that actually use it NOT ABUSE IT. So yeah we know most of the ppl on welfare do abuse it, and dont take advantage of the help and just see it as free money, but its not free money its TAX PAYERS money that me , and you and everyone pays. They have begun to introduce work programs so people on welfare that receive WELFARE have to work for the city doing such jobs as Traffic Cops, Social Workers, Janitors etc, so they are reforming it, its not as it was 20 years ago. The system is slowly getting better. So its not as bad as u think rob Jason NYC Jason, You are one of the few examples of people who actually learn that being on Welfare is not a thing to be proud of. You have worked hard already obviously. I don't know the percentage of people that abandon welfare, but I am sure it is pretty large. Hell, Ol Dirty Bastard used welfare or food stamps, and the guy had money. |
Jason-
where did I say ALL OF WELFARE? The line about helping people who sit on thier butt DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU because you guys have improved yourselves. of course I know there are people who need the help and fell on hard times, you and your family obviously made themselves better from it. Meanwhile there are others who pollute thier bodies and use the system to feed thier addictions. I did not say it everyone who is on it is bad, I dont know where you came up with that and frankly it is ME who is insulted that you would think that. |
no, rob, youre wrong. duh.
kevin. |
****- I did not even write the thing, just passing it on!
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DAMN YOU AND YOUR COMMUNIST VIEWS ROB!
kevin. PS YOURE WRONG BY DEFAULT, I AM DA WINNAR! |
you are all on drugs lol
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Originally Posted by jwteknix' post='852489' date='Jan 9 2007, 07:35 PM
you are all on drugs lol Take a test and prove it! |
The best drug policy i ever ran into was at Tramco/BF Goodrich Aerospace.
It rocked, since you had to pass a test to get the job it was assumed you were drug free when you started, now the FAA mandates random testing, so if you get random tested, first offense is a week off paid, to clean up, come back and piss clean, 2nd offense was 30 days and a drug rehab program all paid for by the company and the third was another drug rehab program and 30 days company paid. Now their reasoning was that if you were clean when you started then the stress of the job drove you to drugs so they would try and clean you up LOL |
most large corporations cannot fire someone for drug use.
they offer rehab |
Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='852501' date='Jan 9 2007, 08:35 PM
most large corporations cannot fire someone for drug use. they offer rehab yea it was a large company..... The post office cans you, right on the spot. |
Originally Posted by teknics' post='852453
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Jason, You are one of the few examples of people who actually learn that being on Welfare is not a thing to be proud of. You have worked hard already obviously. I don't know the percentage of people that abandon welfare, but I am sure it is pretty large.
Hell, Ol Dirty Bastard used welfare or food stamps, and the guy had money. Yeah it does suck the abuse that goes on, its because the government doesnt want to cause a rukus with the people on welfare since they are the majority in big cities like NYC where im from.
Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='852470' date='Jan 9 2007, 03:59 PM
Jason- where did I say ALL OF WELFARE? The line about helping people who sit on thier butt DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU because you guys have improved yourselves. of course I know there are people who need the help and fell on hard times, you and your family obviously made themselves better from it. Meanwhile there are others who pollute thier bodies and use the system to feed thier addictions. I did not say it everyone who is on it is bad, I dont know where you came up with that and frankly it is ME who is insulted that you would think that. My bad didnt mean to cause no beef, just kinda reminded me of this chick in JHS that started popping off about how all welfare ppl be rocking fancy jackets with there welfare money, and i felt like smacking her. I konw what you meant just typed up what i thought in that instant. I apologize for taking this outta context iight rob https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif |
Originally Posted by phinsup' post='852500' date='Jan 9 2007, 09:29 PM
The best drug policy i ever ran into was at Tramco/BF Goodrich Aerospace. It rocked, since you had to pass a test to get the job it was assumed you were drug free when you started, now the FAA mandates random testing, so if you get random tested, first offense is a week off paid, to clean up, come back and piss clean, 2nd offense was 30 days and a drug rehab program all paid for by the company and the third was another drug rehab program and 30 days company paid. Now their reasoning was that if you were clean when you started then the stress of the job drove you to drugs so they would try and clean you up LOL Holy ****, that's amazing! Jason- You would be surprised that NYC is not that bad off compared to other places in the US. The places you normally don't hear about are much worse, but they are so small you won't hear anything about it on the news. Take Camden,NJ for instance, I told a couple of my friends about it, and they did not believe it is the crime capital of the US. They all though it was DC, B-more, and NYC. kev- You can't give your opinion rememeber, you are censored. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.gif |
Originally Posted by rowtareh' post='852523' date='Jan 9 2007, 08:19 PM
Holy ****, that's amazing! Jason- You would be surprised that NYC is not that bad off compared to other places in the US. The places you normally don't hear about are much worse, but they are so small you won't hear anything about it on the news. Take Camden,NJ for instance, I told a couple of my friends about it, and they did not believe it is the crime capital of the US. They all though it was DC, B-more, and NYC. kev- You can't give your opinion rememeber, you are censored. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.gif yeah i heard and read the horror stories about Camden NJ. |
rowtareh - man, you shoulda seen what i really wrote before they cleaned it up
kevin. |
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