So I bought Summit's double flaring tool and it's quite possibly the worst tool evar.
Should I just have a shop flare my lines, or can someone recommend a decent (but not $500) flaring tool?? |
Originally Posted by Dysfnctnl85' post='862205' date='Mar 5 2007, 01:47 PM
So I bought Summit's double flaring tool and it's quite possibly the worst tool evar. Should I just have a shop flare my lines, or can someone recommend a decent (but not $500) flaring tool?? I bought one from Jegs and it pretty much sucked too. |
I have this one http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P6...amp;dir=catalog
I also think kb tools or someone makes a decent one. It takes a bit of a nack i guess, just make sure you oil the tube and the tool well. is the tube slipping or are you just splitting out the flare? |
hmm i use a regular old craftsman.
what exact problem are you having with your tool? kevin. |
Originally Posted by phinsup' post='862225
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hmm i use a regular old craftsman.
what exact problem are you having with your tool? kevin. With this tool, there is no accurate way to align the die. I had quickgrips and a vice and I still could NOT get it aligned properly, resulting in crooked flare and often times a split flare. I'm no expert, but my dad couldn't do it either. And I consider my dad capable of anything with his hands, haha. So, am I an idiot, or is there a better tool? I'll take a look at that Snap-On link...thanks for the suggestion. Here's a pic of the Summit tool: https://static.summitracing.com/glob...sum-900310.jpg EDIT: After looking at the pic, one can easily assume that the "feet" on the die would keep it aligned on the bar, but the tolerance is so high there is a ridiculous amount of play... |
yea, thats how all the tools are, pretty much.
gotta tightened the nuts on the bar slowly back and forth (1 side a few turns, next side a few turns) its a bitch but just take your time. thats actually identical to the craftsman tool. kevin. |
Spend $75 and waste your time, or spend $300 and become a flaring master!
http://www.fedhillusa.com/?page=flaringtools |
I've only used the one you are using, and it worked great, maybe you have too much sticking out?
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Originally Posted by nismo convert' post='862259' date='Mar 5 2007, 07:37 PM
I've only used the one you are using, and it worked great, maybe you have too much sticking out? I've tried that too, to no avail. The initial "bubble" creation is crooked :(. |
I borrowed a snapon one from my friend's old man, and it worked first time without a problem.
I also bought the summit one had it was junk. If you are really careful you can do it, but my first 5 were crap... |
im planning on picking up one from matco this week since they deliver.
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Originally Posted by rfreeman27' post='862454' date='Mar 6 2007, 11:18 PM
I borrowed a snapon one from my friend's old man, and it worked first time without a problem. I also bought the summit one had it was junk. If you are really careful you can do it, but my first 5 were crap... Did you experience the same problem with the inability to properly align the die?! There's no easy way to make sure everything is level... The tool should take care of itself -- the tolerance shouldn't be so high that it requires quickgrips and a vice to make sure everything is level. I'll see if I can locate a Snap-On tool to do the job... |
Originally Posted by Dysfnctnl85' post='862502' date='Mar 7 2007, 12:03 PM
Did you experience the same problem with the inability to properly align the die?! There's no easy way to make sure everything is level... The tool should take care of itself -- the tolerance shouldn't be so high that it requires quickgrips and a vice to make sure everything is level. I'll see if I can locate a Snap-On tool to do the job... Yeah. That and the actual flare always ended up too big or the fold was irregular. I think at first i was tightening too much? Cutting it perfectly straight helps and doing a good gob deburring, take your time there, although its kinda hard to mess that up... Also, the summit line clamp thingy made ulgy imprints in the tube. The Snapon one didnt leave a mark at all. I really think the more you do it, the better they will get. Like i said, i can use the summit one that I own now (had to reroute a line) if you are super careful. Get some scrap and flare....you'll get it. |
Originally Posted by rfreeman27' post='862636' date='Mar 8 2007, 10:35 AM
Yeah. That and the actual flare always ended up too big or the fold was irregular. I think at first i was tightening too much? Cutting it perfectly straight helps and doing a good gob deburring, take your time there, although its kinda hard to mess that up... Also, the summit line clamp thingy made ulgy imprints in the tube. The Snapon one didnt leave a mark at all. I really think the more you do it, the better they will get. Like i said, i can use the summit one that I own now (had to reroute a line) if you are super careful. Get some scrap and flare....you'll get it. It DOES leave a nasty mark! I filed the ends as much as possible, but I didn't actually do anything to the inside of the tubing. It doesn't look at all rough to the naked eye, but I guess that could be one point of failure in the flaring process. I'm going to wrestle with it tonight and see. I'll pick up something that I can use to deburr the inside of the tubing... |
Cut the tubing with a dremel cut off wheel. That way it leave a clean cut
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Originally Posted by Cheers!' post='862657' date='Mar 8 2007, 12:12 PM
Cut the tubing with a dremel cut off wheel. That way it leave a clean cut That's an idea. I've been using a standard tubing cutter. I'll try that as well. |
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