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Dude, **** the 757s they aren't as cool or nearly as rotary powered as the 787s. **** those terroriste catering mother fuckers man.
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From Josh:
Where did the wings go? Where did the surveillance video from the roof of the Sheraton overlooking the pentagon go? Why are there frames missing from the originally released tape? Where's the black box? Why the need for all the secrecy? |
From Josh:
Where did the wings go? Where did the surveillance video from the roof of the Sheraton overlooking the pentagon go? Why are there frames missing from the originally released tape? Where's the black box? Why the need for all the secrecy? |
Hahaha, double post. Tell Josh I said hey though.
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[quote name='Rx7Widow' date='Sep 2 2005, 11:09 PM']From Josh:
Where did the wings go? Where did the surveillance video from the roof of the Sheraton overlooking the pentagon go? Why are there frames missing from the originally released tape? Where's the black box? Why the need for all the secrecy? [snapback]754781[/snapback] [/quote] im looking for pics of where the wing hits (somewhere in there) but look at this vid of a jet going around 300 or so mph hitting a concrete wall. (the 757 that hit the pentagon was going 500+) and where are ITS wings? http://www.sandia.gov/media/mov_mpg/...htest_slow.mov http://www.sandia.gov/media/mov_mpg/f_4crashtest.mov http://www.sandia.gov/media/mov_mpg/..._test_slow.mpg http://www.sandia.gov/media/mov_mpg/f_4crashtest.mpg |
An update showing the starboard (right) wing impact mark on the Pentagon. I am going to expand this "damage to the building in comparision to a Boeing 757 - to scale" so please bear with me while this particular post grows. This is a very clear photo of the impact scar across the Pentagon on the right side of the primary hole. http://www.gamelogos.com/temp/starboard-wing.jpg Above photo - without above notations http://www.gamelogos.com/temp/starboard-wingzoom.jpg http://www.gamelogos.com/temp/starboard-wing2.jpg read through the thread, it goes through more scrutinizing than ANY of the conspiracy theories did, and it still stands ahead. |
oh yeah, and as for the rest about the missing tapes, and the black box, the black box was recovered, but what are you talking about with the missing frames? and what ISNT the government secretive about???
as said in the first post about the black box: Even the black boxesblack boxes have been recovered, the reason given for not playing the flight voice recorder for the media was that it wouldn't serve any use other than to cause more emotional pain to family members (I agree with them frankly). |
Debris Of Flight 93 Debris is so minimal here as well. The area of where were wings (jet fuel is carried) seem to have burned the ground more than where the body of the plane was. http://www.geocities.com/pentalawn20...talawn/pl7.jpg stupid 30 second time to edit.... |
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[quote name='RotorDemon' date='Sep 3 2005, 12:28 AM']http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/pentagon.swf
I like this one. [snapback]754799[/snapback] [/quote] PLEASE tell me you dont actually believe that. all that the video was based off of was the security camera (on the page i listed it shows how a 757 fits perfectly into the space that on your vid they say one cant fit in) and the fact that no parts of the plane were found (if you look on the link i gave it shows that there were pieces that were found, like TWO engines, and also if you look at the videos i posted of a plane hitting the concrete wall youll notice that that entire plane is disintigrated, you see VERY few parts of that plane fly past the wall, or ANY anywhere near it) and finally on eyewitness accounts which call it a missle, but on the link i posted theres more than what the video had that call it a plane. so explain this: (since you obviously didnt even read or look at the pictures AT ALL in the link i posted if you still believe that link) http://69.57.144.30/ats/pentagon757/...tor_fence1.jpg Area of fence to the right of the impact area partially flattened by the right engine of the plane. Note how a couple of the poles are bent right over, some are sheered off at the top, yet the pole and fence portion on the left is untouched (obviously the right engine took out the fence to the right of those poles) and the entire back side of the fence has been torn away. The generator was hit by the right wing and engine before the 757 hit the building - the damage is evidenced by other photos of the crash area. Closeup of generator smashed in the front and gouged on the top - hard to image a missile accomplishing both of these. But if the right engine of a 757 hit the front of the generator, part of the wing could gouge the top. At the very least, something very large, and very heavy smashed into this extremely heavy desil generator. http://69.57.144.30/ats/pentagon757/...ouge-small.jpg http://69.57.144.30/ats/pentagon757/17s.jpg Click the image on the left to view a large top-down image of the impact area, including the large desil generator which is visibly damaged, and actually spun ~45 degrees from the impact! Most importantly it is spun ~45 degrees towards the building - if this was a missile or a bomb, the explosion could ONLY have spun it away from the building. http://69.57.144.30/ats/pentagon757/generator.jpg The Gate Camera Some people don't seem to see perspective correctly. I've zoomed in, and compared the two frames over and over - here is what I see as the airplane. I will repeat, however, that this is terrible evidence due to the horrible quality of the original images. I do believe, however, that the white smoke in the images is caused by one or more damaged engine from the impact with the multiple light poles on the way in (as seen in the above image). http://www.gamelogos.com/temp/camera1b.gif |
Take a look for one at the front of the engine in the picture. then take a look at a REAL 757 turbine.
Sorry... didn't know a passenger airliner has engines that are a MASSIVE 2 feet in diameter. Plus the "smoke trail" from the damaged engine should have stayed in many more frames. This indicates its not a trail and the video/flash/gif was tampered. That will be all. |
[quote name='RotorDemon' date='Sep 3 2005, 01:18 AM']Take a look for one at the front of the engine in the picture. then take a look at a REAL 757 turbine.
Sorry... didn't know a passenger airliner has engines that are a MASSIVE 2 feet in diameter. Plus the "smoke trail" from the damaged engine should have stayed in many more frames. This indicates its not a trail and the video/flash/gif was tampered. That will be all. [snapback]754802[/snapback] [/quote] http://69.57.144.30/ats/pentagon757/planeparts-1.jpg What is seen in this photo is most likely the APU (Aux Power Unit) used in a 757 that is equipped with Rolls-Royce RB211 engines. The APU (Honeywell GTCP331-200) is located in the tail section of the aircraft (that's what the large vent that looks like a 3rd jet engine is) as edvidenced on this technical rescue reference aid from Boeing. Boeing 757 reference website. These small turbine engines are quite common on modern turbine & turbofan passenger aircraft, and are used to furnish ground auxillary power while the main engines are shut down during ground operations. An online training aid lets you Play around with the controls on a 757/767 instrument pannel. There have been some people who claim that a Global Hawk was what hit the Pentagon. Here is what John W. Brown, spokesman for Rolls Royce (Indianapolis), had to say about the part in the photo above �It is not a part from any Rolls Royce engine that I�m familiar with, and certainly not the AE 3007H made here in Indy.� (Of course it wouldn't be anything he's familiar with, it's a powerplant made by Honeywell.) The AE 3007 engines are used in small commuter jets such as the Cessna Citation; the AE 3007H is also used in the military�s unmanned aircraft, the Global Hawk. The Global Hawk is manufactured by Northrop Grumman�s subsidiary Ryan Aeronautical, which it acquired from Teledyne, Inc. in July 1999. A detailed view of what the turbofan that powers the Global Hawk looks like - I'm sure you can see it's too small to be anything in the pictures contained here or anywhere else in the Pentagon crash evidence. Also visible in this photo, one of the 757's blue passenger seats to the left of the turbine, and possibly a 2nd seat above the other seat. http://www.gamelogos.com/temp/pentanimxox2.gif find a .gif that has a longer trail than that one. you CANT because thats how it actually looked. ANYWAYS you still havent refuted any of the points that have been brought up on my side, only to try and take away the credibility of a fewof the points ive brought up (and have been successfully countered on my part, thanks to the link i gave earlier) read through a couple pages of the link i posted and youll realize that what youve been fed is total bullshit. If you plan on trying to take anything away from my argument answer these questions before replying: 1. what happened to the generator that was turned towards the pentagon? 2. what hit the pentagon if it wasnt a plane? 3. where did the parts of the plane come from? 4. why does the origional size of the hole match the size of a 757 nose? 5. why were heavily damaged wheels that are confirmed to be installed on a 757 found inside the building? 6. why do the engine parts photographed inside the crash site match engine parts match a Rolls-Royce RB211 (the same type of engine that was on the 757) 7. why do structural components photographed in wreckage match Boeing paint primer schemes? 8. why were 60+ bodies, matching the passenger list and flight crew roster identified and returned to families from Pentagon wreckage? and since you have NOTHING to refute these points you obviously have no argument against it being a 757. |
[quote name='Eric Happy Meal' date='Sep 3 2005, 02:35 AM']http://www.gamelogos.com/temp/pentanimxox2.gif
find a .gif that has a longer trail than that one. you CANT because thats how it actually looked. That proves no point and yes.. there is not a video in existance with more frames from that camera. If you plan on trying to take anything away from my argument answer these questions before replying: 1. what happened to the generator that was turned towards the pentagon? Infact, engineers from Honeywell HAVE come forward to say IT ISN'T an APU, an that IT ISN'T FROM A 757 AT ALL. 2. what hit the pentagon if it wasnt a plane? You can't even answer that one 3. where did the parts of the plane come from? From a plane 4. why does the origional size of the hole match the size of a 757 nose? It doesn't 5. why were heavily damaged wheels that are confirmed to be installed on a 757 found inside the building? Wheres this "confirmation"? 6. why do the engine parts photographed inside the crash site match engine parts match a Rolls-Royce RB211 (the same type of engine that was on the 757) You are pulling that right out of your ass 7. why do structural components photographed in wreckage match Boeing paint primer schemes? Again, no confirmation. That inhibitor is used widely in many aircraft, civilian, military, etc. Boeing, Douglas, Lockheed, General Dynamics.. etc. 8. why were 60+ bodies, matching the passenger list and flight crew roster identified and returned to families from Pentagon wreckage? No bodies/luggage/Black Box were recovered blamed on "intense heat from fuel" and since you have NOTHING to refute these points you obviously have no argument against it being a 757. [snapback]754803[/snapback] [/quote] https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png |
Wait hold on.. I got a quick question for you Eric.
Ok.. so heres this hole in the Pentagon thats burning. They say from fuel. Infact the 757 has two tanks about "ABOUT" 90 feet apart on the wings. Why isn't it a blazing inferno on either side of the hole? |
It was aliens.
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[quote name='inanimate_object' date='Sep 3 2005, 03:25 AM']It was aliens.
Mark [snapback]754809[/snapback] [/quote] Yeah geez.. I should have thought of that. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif |
Well your theorey is about as likely.
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[quote name='inanimate_object' date='Sep 3 2005, 03:38 AM']Well your theorey is about as likely.
Mark [snapback]754814[/snapback] [/quote] Coming from someone half way around the world. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif |
haha... this is just bs
despite all these arguments, don't you think someone would have seen a ****** 757 hit it??? Also, those planes are flippin huge ! there's no way they would try to cover something like that up |
wait, or is this just 9/11 stuff cuz the pentagon was hit on 9/11..... but was it with a 757 ?
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dude, why the **** would you post about this 4 years after the **** ******* happened. people died in the pentagon, who gives a **** if it was a conspiracy. if it was a conspiracy, then the fuckers need to be shot whoever did it.
****, stop talking about this **** after 4 years. |
find a .gif that has a longer trail than that one. you CANT because thats how it actually looked. That proves no point and yes.. there is not a video in existance with more frames from that camera. If you plan on trying to take anything away from my argument answer these questions before replying: 1. what happened to the generator that was turned towards the pentagon? Infact, engineers from Honeywell HAVE come forward to say IT ISN'T an APU, an that IT ISN'T FROM A 757 AT ALL. 2. what hit the pentagon if it wasnt a plane? You can't even answer that one 3. where did the parts of the plane come from? From a plane 4. why does the origional size of the hole match the size of a 757 nose? It doesn't 5. why were heavily damaged wheels that are confirmed to be installed on a 757 found inside the building? Wheres this "confirmation"? 6. why do the engine parts photographed inside the crash site match engine parts match a Rolls-Royce RB211 (the same type of engine that was on the 757) You are pulling that right out of your ass 7. why do structural components photographed in wreckage match Boeing paint primer schemes? Again, no confirmation. That inhibitor is used widely in many aircraft, civilian, military, etc. Boeing, Douglas, Lockheed, General Dynamics.. etc. 8. why were 60+ bodies, matching the passenger list and flight crew roster identified and returned to families from Pentagon wreckage? No bodies/luggage/Black Box were recovered blamed on "intense heat from fuel" and since you have NOTHING to refute these points you obviously have no argument against it being a 757.[/QUOTE] |
[quote name='rowtareh' date='Sep 3 2005, 06:54 AM']dude, why the **** would you post about this 4 years after the **** ******* happened. people died in the pentagon, who gives a **** if it was a conspiracy. if it was a conspiracy, then the fuckers need to be shot whoever did it.
****, stop talking about this **** after 4 years. [snapback]754840[/snapback] [/quote] https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/unsure.png |
[quote name='RotorDemon' date='Sep 3 2005, 02:43 AM']Coming from someone half way around the world. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif
[snapback]754815[/snapback] [/quote] just because he doesnt live in the US doesnt mean he cant see facts that were put in front of his face. |
[quote name='RotorDemon' date='Sep 3 2005, 02:22 AM']Wait hold on.. I got a quick question for you Eric.
Ok.. so heres this hole in the Pentagon thats burning. They say from fuel. Infact the 757 has two tanks about "ABOUT" 90 feet apart on the wings. Why isn't it a blazing inferno on either side of the hole? [snapback]754808[/snapback] [/quote] http://members.shaw.ca/freedomsix/pics/marker.jpg |
some one has alot of time on their hands
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I think someone loaded up a cannon with a bunch of airplane parts and shot it at the pentagon.
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glad everyone thinks its funny or cool to think its some conspiracy.
I have 5 family members who all work in the Pentagon and know some of the people that died. I've been to the crash site. I'm currently raising money for the Memorial that they are trying to build there. Here's a good question. What happened to all those people who died on the planes? Did they just vanish? No. They died on that plane along with the people in the Pentagon. |
[quote name='twinturborx7pete' date='Sep 3 2005, 03:28 PM']glad everyone thinks its funny or cool to think its some conspiracy.
I have 5 family members who all work in the Pentagon and know some of the people that died. I've been to the crash site. I'm currently raising money for the Memorial that they are trying to build there. Here's a good question. What happened to all those people who died on the planes? Did they just vanish? No. They died on that plane along with the people in the Pentagon. [snapback]754940[/snapback] [/quote] Dude, that's awesome that you are raising money for the memorial...But don't think for one minute that you can surf the net and not have people make fun of other peoples pain. Take all the owned pics and videos you see on the net everywhere as a good example. It's a lot easier to laugh when you don't know who they are. |
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