How much do you think it would cost to drop a 2jz-gte engine into an FD. I know but I just wanted to know how much. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif
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ABOUT.... $10,000 or so, for everything. And that should cover some mods to.
But of course the thing that is going to cost the most (assuming you already have the 3rd gen) is going to be an MKIV supra half cut, which is about $4000-5000 dollars. |
sweet yea, I was hoping for that kind of price. Yea I do have aan FD, but this might sound dumb but what is a half cut? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif
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Originally Posted by wanta be boosted' date='Mar 1 2004, 01:37 PM
ABOUT.... $10,000 or so
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Originally Posted by ColinRX7' date='Mar 1 2004, 08:56 PM
That's optimistic..
id give it a good 20k |
Don't forget
You need: Custom Everything Hope you know good fabricators! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png |
10k ..... wow, if you do all the work yourself maybe
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just remember....3 rotor swaps have been quoted on avg to end up at around 30,000...and that is with a 3500 dollar motor.... and using the tranny that you already have...that mounts to the car already!
with a 2jz youll have to custom EVERYTHING its like playing Mazda... "hey we got the car now we gotta design how to get it to drive! engine, tranny, driveshaft, rear end, mounts, etc" |
10k ..... wow, if you do all the work yourself maybe welllllll, yeah, I assume people can do that..... I don't think it is optimistic. I am doing to a TII, with a 7M (as most everyone has seen...) And have less than $2000 in the hole right now, and it will be running/driving with another $500. And a half cut, is the front clip of the car. Come with like, engine, drivetrain, rear end (the remove it most of the time, and give it to you), fuel pump. Basically most of the main parts that you will most likely need. |
Originally Posted by wanta be boosted' date='Mar 2 2004, 04:21 AM
welllllll, yeah, I assume people can do that.....
I do my own fab work too but not everybody can And you have a **** $500 7M that probably isn't going to last, and this guy is talking about doing the swap for reliability if you see his other thread about this in the lounge. |
Awwwww whaling on my cheap ass engine....
I can get a fully rebuilt one with a MHG for $400. And I don't live on a farm dip ****! |
Originally Posted by wanta be boosted' date='Mar 2 2004, 03:44 PM
Awwwww whaling on my cheap ass engine....
I can get a fully rebuilt one with a MHG for $400. And I don't live on a farm dip ****! |
Coulda swore I heard about you chasing pigs on a tractor.
Reasonable doubt |
One pig... And that is a pet, not a farm..... canadian....
the car is jhunk Who the **** are you talking to? http://prod.bsis.bellsouth.net/coDat...bruce-shut.jpg |
What does being Canadian have to do with it?
Anyways comparing your >2000 USD swap (including motor cost) to the concept of a 'reliable swap' isn't getting you anywhere. He wants a reliable FD with 2JZ, not play junkyard wars. |
well, we'll see how reliable it is...
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I applaud your efforts on doing something different with your rx7 even if it means swapping another manufacturer engine in replacement of the rotary. and as far as having a cheap toyota engine in there ...it would still be cheap to rebuild that toyota 3 times and still be cheaper than 1 rebuild for an rx7 engine with the type of shady rebuilders we have floating around...now how reliable is that.....
there's a guy in florida that actually put a rb20det in his rx7 and I dont see any1 flaming at him about his cheap engine and he is doing 10.51 in the 1/4 mile.. |
Originally Posted by saiyanjin93' date='Mar 5 2004, 08:04 AM
I applaud your efforts on doing something different with your rx7 even if it means swapping another manufacturer engine in replacement of the rotary. and as far as having a cheap toyota engine in there ...it would still be cheap to rebuild that toyota 3 times and still be cheaper than 1 rebuild for an rx7 engine with the type of shady rebuilders we have floating around...now how reliable is that.....
there's a guy in florida that actually put a rb20det in his rx7 and I dont see any1 flaming at him about his cheap engine and he is doing 10.51 in the 1/4 mile.. |
2jz is not cheap nor is an rb20det.
But there is no way it will cost 10k. The fabrication of all the components you will need will cost well over that. The yellow Supra7 was all custom done. And WELL over 10k in fab work. As for being Canadain, lay off. Everyone likes us, maby there is a reason for that. And who gives a crap if you live on a farm or not, its good that you can build your car yourself wherever you live. Props for that. But not many people have the equipment or skill to do such things. Good luck with you 7, i hope to hear stories about it running soon. |
Most all of the fabrication to do is usually grunt work... Not so much work that requires high fabrication skill, most is just cutting, sanding, grinding, so forth....
If you go to a tech college take a welding class, then go hand around a steel shop, and learn how to fabricate stuff. Then You could do it your self for $10,000 and less. And the SP supra7 car cost way more, because it is a show car. I would seriously dought if that car has been driven more than 50 miles in it's life so far. They just had to engenieer it to look good. I could very well be wrong on that, but I have never seen it run in any video or anything.... Also I will be blowing most of you prices out of the water. I finally have the money to completly finish my supra7 (due to haveing to sell my baby, a 1937 John Deere https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR ) Anyways, I should have it running withing 2 weeks, and it will take about $1000 bucks. And that is with a new paint job https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png So that brings MY price to $2500. |
I don't know how you figure you can impress people with low cost jobs.
There a difference between paying a decent price and beating the competition in the same field, and buying total garbage. Your final cost for swapping in that whole motor reflects it too. What if I told you I found a (used) aluminum racing radiator for $30 bucks.. All it does is make you doubt the quality/craftsmanship. |
I've been trying to fabricate a single turbo setup from an old hair dryer I found in my basement for months now...... Keeps overheating though.... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/11.gif
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The reason you have never seen the Supra7 run is because it is not entirely finished. The pics that many people have of the car in Turbo mag are not complete.
The engine in that car is pushing out over 1000whp. The car will be used for drag as well. finish my supra7 If you have done all this, good on you. I don't know what you think you are proving but it is very little. Other than the fact that you bough and made very cheap stuff. But good luck anyway. Prove me wrong. |
I've been trying to fabricate a single turbo setup from an old hair dryer I found in my basement for months now...... Keeps overheating though.... Its not working because you are suposta use a leaf blower, not a blowdryer LOL |
SON OF A BITCH!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif
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What if I told you I found a (used) aluminum racing radiator for $30 bucks.. All it does is make you doubt the quality/craftsmanship. Noooo, actually I wouldn't! I would say good for you, glad you acctually took the extra time to look for a better deal! So many people are obsesed with a name, or being new. Name brand parts are fine, and good, but when you can get a no name, or stock part that works just as good, and costs a 10th of the price. Then I would call you retarded not to get the no name one.... Just my opinion... maybe you like seeing HKS on everything (Or whatever brand you buy) So you have put in a 2jz motor with all the fabricated parts. A running motor. Made a custom driveshaft. Custom tranny mounts. Dug out the tranny tunnel of the car to accommodate the tranny. Not to mention making a complete cradle to hold the motor in the car. If you have done all this, good on you. Well..... Yes. Just with a 7MGTE, not a 2JZ. |
Originally Posted by wanta be boosted' date='Mar 6 2004, 05:32 AM
Noooo, actually I wouldn't! I would say good for you, glad you acctually took the extra time to look for a better deal!
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So you made all the motormounts, tranny mounts, dug out the tranny tunnel, made new driveshafts?
Thats a wack load of work. How did you have the materialc and equipment to do all that for under 2500$. Thats crazy, wish i could have deals like that. |
I call around, watch ebay with patients, and surf the local papers, and junk yards for interesting parts that might work.
The tranny tunnel is wide enough for the R154 (turbo supra tranny) you have about 2 inchs on either side of it, but you have to cut the stock rx-7 cross member mount points off. And I took the front yolk of the supra driveshaft, along with the stock TII driveshaft to a local shop. And then put them together for me, at the measurement I told them, and it fits perfect, along with costing me $150. And so far the only tools we have used is: Saw-zaw, hand held band saw, welder, grinders, cut off saw, air/electric drills. And maybe a few misselacious tools inbetween. But nothing you can't buy at low's. I'm sure you'll understand the comparison I was trying to make once it's up and running. I'm sure I will because factory parts are just absolute **** https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif You know, it's not like they weren't made to run for long periods of time without maintence.... Because how many times does your radiator just up and blow the hell up because it was used... Ohhh wait, that means it will just pop once you start your car the second time, I guess you buy a new one ever day huh? I don't think you have any idea what your talking about... Or maybe all you do is just buy these cute little kits from greedy (purposelly spelled wrong...) HK$, Apexi, and so on.... |
Originally Posted by wanta be boosted' date='Mar 6 2004, 06:06 PM
I don't think you have any idea what your talking about...
Your RX7 is older than you are, I don't know how you consider yourself an expert on reliability and longevity. |
No it's not, same age....
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