Just wondering if anyone knows of a FWD car modified to use a rotary engine? Would love details of the conversion if anybody knows of such a case. I have a project in mind, but would like to be told of problems I'll need to overcome, such as the obvious engine mounting and mating a FWD gearbox.

Ive seen some pictures of guys in eastern europe/russia with fwd rotary cars. They were either on this forum or the club. Maybe someone else knows who they are and can shed more light on it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Lada make a FWD rotary, I have also seen 1 or 2 fwd gearbox's adapted to fit. To be honest though, it's a waste of time and effort.



Mark

Agreed. There is someone on this board with a Lada Rotary in Russia. There was a thread in New Member's Chat I think, and it was like 10 pages long also.



There is also a civic over in Australia with the swap done. It looks clean, but seems kind of silly to do.

AutoVAZ does rotary cars with FWD, at me such two cars,

the engine:

VAZ 415

140 ps and 185Hm in stok



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I think I'll be hearing that quite a lot if this project ever gets off the ground, but I have to expect it.



In my defence, I'll be doing it for the challenge and learning experience more than anything. I'm not too keen on the idea of plug'n'play items which "instantly" adds x amounts of power. It reminds me too much of the Fast and Furious fanboys who will hand their car over to someone and say, I've got rich parents, make my car go real fast. Sorry for the rant, each to their own I guess.



Thanks for the pics as well. Does anyone have any info on that little green gem?



Also curious if anyone has any technical drawings showing general dimensions of a 13b

whys it a waste of time? First of all, not everyone wants a RWD car or can have one in their climate. Second of all, If I had to choose a extra car besides my truck for a DD, I'd get a fwd, so why not have it be rotary? I think its a badass idea, of course it wouldn't be a supa deluxe drag mobile, but if its in a light weight small car, it could be loads of fun.

Sticking a rotary in a RWD car won't be much less of a learning experience/challenging. If you really want to mate a fwd gearbox stick the whole lot over the back wheels https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png.



The advantages of FWD are confined to packaging/space costs, but don't let me put you off - if that's what you want to do then by all means do it. What are you planning to stick it in?



Mark

That civic is actually from New Zealand not Austrailia. It was for sale on trade me which is the NZ version of Ebay. From memory I think it was a 12a bp. The gearbox is out of a toyota corona (the honda engines spin the wrong way)

I'm hoping I can squeeze one into a Daihatsu Mira. There's quite a scene in SE Asia and Japan with modifying Kei class cars, but afaik no one has fitted a rotary in one. And with the small displacement engines that are used, people are quite limited with the power available, maxing out at around 200-FWHP. There are also AWD versions of the Mira released, which could make for even more fun.

The reason FWD cars max out at around 200bhp is not because of engines capabilities, it's because after that FWD is basically horrible to drive, you get all kinds of traction and torque-steer issues.



Mark

FWD LADA rotary engine

254bhp

1\4mile=12.6

With no disrespect intended, if your drag racing you don't need a car that handles. FWD is still a handicap but for different reasons - ie. weight distribution.



Mark

Sylva riot



Now tell me that is not a good place for a rotary mated to a FWD gearbox?

We go across Moscow every day on FWD with a rotor, I assure you that it very quickly, weight distribution at such machine excellent, however as well as controllability!

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif I think the car engined versions look better though.



Mark

Another reason I am choosing the Mira, is because they also released a model with AWD. Mind you, whilst standard it was only intended for better traction in the snow etc, but people have converted it to 50:50 FW/RWD with great success.

i can't remember the site but one of my buddies is into VW bugs and he found a transmisison plate that allows a 13b to be mounted to a VW transmission. i'm giving him my old 13b n/a to try it on. so we'll see how that goes ha.

FWD rotary would no be bad in the snow,But I'm not a big fan of understeering. If your going to start a swap why not make a AWD roatry powered monster!! I read about a AWD 1st gen RX-7 in the "RX-7 performance handbook".

I am not a fan a FWD, but I have been pondering about building an adapter for the rotary to make it FWD, I just wont be using it as FWD. I would put this in to a MR2. Go mid-engine rotary.

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would using an awd platform and just swapping over the fwd rear end be an option... then again which way are the engines mounted in the awd version??

In Orlando FL there is a project full drag 13b P port 323 glc , if you would like to see go to www.pistonvsrotor.com and click on the word SECCIONES , then click on (PROJECTOS), then in (USA) Then in (JUST ONE )also in www.supercompacto.com , they also had afew pics of a toyota tercel rotoary FWD...... just my little input by the way that second one is out of puerto rico........ jose

Well, you could go the subaru way. Place the engine really far forward or the DSM way and have a normal FWD positioned engine with a transfer case built in to the trans.



I think that the subaru way would be the easiest, but I dont know if you can get the rotary engine to fit in the RXs engine bay after pushing so far forward. Our cars are "technically" a mid-engine (engine is behind the front axle) so you would have to put the engine in front of the front axle, so thats what, 2 feet forward. It obviously has been done. I just need to find the guys that do it.