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Swatkat 07-23-2003 11:27 AM

The only way I can have a rotary powered car is swapping engine. I have 96' Fiat 126 (2 cyl, air cooled, rear engine, rwd, about 1300lbs) so I'm wondering if it is possible to put a 12A in it. Anyone done this before or know something useful?

j9fd3s 07-23-2003 11:46 AM

wow, i'm not even sure we got the 126 in the us. do you know if you can put a vw tranny into it? you can bolt the rotary to the vw tranny, with an adaptor.



mike

Swatkat 07-23-2003 01:00 PM

It is possible to put VW tranny into 126 but I wonder in which direction the vw engine rotates?

Jeff20B 07-23-2003 01:10 PM

VW engines and rotaries rotate the same direction. Corvair and Honda engines rotate backwards.

Swatkat 07-23-2003 01:17 PM

Thanx for help! Gotta search for 12A in good condition maybe in Germany. There are Vw's in Poland so I can find a tranny in here I guess....

j9fd3s 07-23-2003 02:25 PM

sounds like it should be a neat project



mike

Swatkat 12-23-2003 05:10 PM

Hi!



Me and my mate are back to the project. We decided to put a 13b single turbo from 2nd gen. Rx7. An engine will be mid mounted, bolted to the Fiat Punto 6spd manual gearbox (fwd). We are also planning to use Punto suspension cause 126's suspension is a total useless crap. 126 weights only about 0,6 - 0,65 tonne so it will be great power-to-weight ratio car. We need as much information about 13b single turbo as we can get. Here are some photos of 126 with 1400cc inline 4cyl. turbo puting down 150hp. Imagine same car but 200Hp+ rotary engine powered.

Any info, ideas, knowledge very useful....





http://www.ktsw.hat.pl/kaza/5.jpg

http://www.ktsw.hat.pl/kaza/2.jpg

http://www.wrc.neostrada.pl/kaza.jpg

Jeff20B 12-23-2003 07:17 PM

Nice project!



FWD cars are a challange with a rotary due to a CV shaft being very close to the intake/exhaust manifolding. I hope to take on a project of that caliber some day.

ZoLtaR 12-25-2003 08:35 AM

It isn't FWD car, we're gonna have only engine+gearbox mounted crosswise (like FWD) but transmission is RWD, with that weight (approx. 700kg) we should rock https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png Give me info about 13b as much as possible, especially dimensions (width,length) of course with manifolds,electricity and so on ...

RX-2 01-04-2004 02:43 AM


Originally Posted by ZoLtaR' date='Dec 25 2003, 07:35 AM
It isn't FWD car, we're gonna have only engine+gearbox mounted crosswise (like FWD) but transmission is RWD, with that weight (approx. 700kg) we should rock https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png Give me info about 13b as much as possible, especially dimensions (width,length) of course with manifolds,electricity and so on ...

Might not be a fwd car but you will still have the problems of a fwd car that is spoken about above. In a piston engine the exhaust and intake mount on the head. The head is mounted above the block. In a transverse mounted car the axleshaft runs beside the block to get to the other side of the car from the transmission. But on a rotary the exhaust sits very low on the motor so you may have clearance problems. Not a definate problem however something to watch for. And especially with a turbo as that makes the exhaust even bigger.


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