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vosko 10-03-2003 11:39 AM

T210thanny has 260rwhp and 300rwtq .... so he is almost at the 350/350 mark with stock engine and turbo



so THERE!

Mr. Ashe 10-03-2003 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Oct 3 2003, 08:39 AM
T210thanny has 260rwhp and 300rwtq .... so he is almost at the 350/350 mark with stock engine and turbo



so THERE!

I wasint talking about turbo.. Im talking about N/A.



Aluminum blocks arent that expensive, it depends on what you buy, yes a fully built ford racing GT-40X will cost you around 2 grand. If you know what to buy you can do it for 1,500 or so. I havent seen the weight diffrences between the stock 5.0 and the 13b so I don't know yet. And I said the conversion kit is 500 dollars. I can get a 302 for 200 dollars, the mods to get me that far, perhaps 5-700 dollars. Depending on which route I go. Compared to a 20B swap, or the hassle of swapping in a Turbo II engine (instead of just buying one) it seems a hell of a lot easier.



I'm not here for a battle beween V8s V6es, I6es I4s and rotaries..I could care less. I have favorites in every diffrent style. And it's pretty meaningless to fight over "which" is better..Because I don't give a damn.

Nemesis 10-03-2003 01:24 PM

Good luck on the swap. Make sure you post lots of pictures.

1Revvin7 10-03-2003 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. Ashe' date='Oct 3 2003, 12:56 PM
I'm not here for a battle beween V8s V6es, I6es I4s and rotaries..I could care less. I have favorites in every diffrent style. And it's pretty meaningless to fight over "which" is better..Because I don't give a damn.

Thank you.





I hear one more dumbass comment, or even a comment about how v8 swaps suck and this thread is closed..

Mr. Ashe 10-03-2003 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Nemesis' date='Oct 3 2003, 10:24 AM
Good luck on the swap. Make sure you post lots of pictures.

I will..It's gonna be awhile because I do plan on running the rotary around for awhile first ;p As soon as it has a problem or I find a cheap alum block, it's comming out. Or if I get enough money for that 88 T2... :x

'79rx7 10-03-2003 05:08 PM

In my opinion the rx-7 is breath taking experience from the ground up, it's a complete package a racer from concept to production everything that is done to it is for a reason to serve a purpose (function before form). There are a few rules to a rx-7: 1. keep it light! 2. don't drive an automatic they're crap. 3. the heart and soul of the car is the rotary engine. That being said you should be praying to the car gods for letting have the privilage to even get behind the seat of such a rare and fantastic machine. So instead of learning everything you can about it. So as to really appreicate it for what it is you are going to tear it apart and disect it, then deface it all for a half second off an et. But only in a straight line.



I'd learn everything you can about your car and it's wonderful powerplant maybe even their racing heritage before you think you can improve apon mazda's design with a v8.



But what ever you do good luck! Please just don't make our wonder car's that everyone on her loves and cherishes a pile of **** like most idiots.

MazdaEnthused 10-03-2003 05:33 PM

please dont swap any piston engine into an rx7

Mr. Ashe 10-03-2003 05:59 PM

Tear it apart? Im bolting a cradle in, and pulling out the driveshaft, a little bit of rewiring..That isnt tearing it apart. The only "tearing" is getting the shifter located in the center console. I don't like N/A rotaries. They're too slow. I don't have the know how nor the pateince to learn how to build one.





That wasint Mazdas deisgn, the Wankel belongs to Dr. Wankel.. :P, they opted to use the engine as an experiment. The thought, and theme has been used plenty of times Exotic and Domestic. And have you driven a FC with a V8? I drove one a couple of times, they handle just as well. People think of V8s as huge heavy bulky slaps of iron and moving parts.. Sure, they are..but, not all of them, hell not even most of them..It's not like im using a hemi out of a 'Cuda. :P



Tell you what, if I can make 350 wheel horsepower and 400 wheel torque without porting the living hell out of the engine, spending more than 4,000 on the engine, and not having to worry about blowing a seal, keep a tame idle..let me know. Realistically. AND N/A!!

loudazzrx7 10-03-2003 06:13 PM

I have been reading this post and seeing that i have seen alot of swaps at eld performance --the main thing here i see is about money.Do you honestly have any idea what its going to run you to do the swap?--first off to get 350hp out of the 302 is going to be costly.The one thing to think about here is what will take the punishment the most and what will be more drivable--the 7 with the 302 of course,350 horses out of a 302 will be easy to achieve without worrying about major breakage like you will with the 13b.I dont care what the hell anyone says about why are you ruining the car.Your not ruining anything.People have been doing motor swaps for years.And also this crap about center of gravity--lol

how much do you thing the 302 block weights with a carb compared to a 13b and all the crap on it.theres not much difference.I have seen 3 motor swaps at eld.1 to a 302,1 to a 350 chevy,and the other a buick grand national motor--if i was going to do a swap the grand national motor was the ****,that car was a beast!

Mr. Ashe 10-03-2003 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by loudazzrx7' date='Oct 3 2003, 03:13 PM
I have been reading this post and seeing that i have seen alot of swaps at eld performance --the main thing here i see is about money.Do you honestly have any idea what its going to run you to do the swap?--first off to get 350hp out of the 302 is going to be costly.The one thing to think about here is what will take the punishment the most and what will be more drivable--the 7 with the 302 of course,350 horses out of a 302 will be easy to achieve without worrying about major breakage like you will with the 13b.I dont care what the hell anyone says about why are you ruining the car.Your not ruining anything.People have been doing motor swaps for years.And also this crap about center of gravity--lol

how much do you thing the 302 block weights with a carb compared to a 13b and all the crap on it.theres not much difference.I have seen 3 motor swaps at eld.1 to a 302,1 to a 350 chevy,and the other a buick grand national motor--if i was going to do a swap the grand national motor was the ****,that car was a beast!

Trust me man, I can make a junkyard fiveoh put 350 to the floor with less than 700. That includes the motor. It doesnt take much really.



GN 3.8L.. I dunno, that might require some "tearing" :/ I want to be able to put the 13B back in later on.


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