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rxrotary2_7 01-22-2003 09:17 AM

can someone please explain this to me. my car runs fine and i never zeroed it. i just did a friends car w/ an e6k and the same thing... runs great. the other night i was at another member's (of the other forum) house and he told me that he has never zeroed his timing either.

when getting my friends car finished up, i was going to go ahead and zero it... but figured i would ask if there is an easy way how to do it. back in the day racing beat used to sell little markers for the 12a's you could use to easily see where differnt timing was by using their tool. i think the little mark on the FD wheel is 20*atdc? is this right? if so, exactly how do i go about making sure the timing is right? should i change the value in the haltech? if so, what value and to what? can anyone help? i have seen tons of info on doing it on a FC... but what about the FD?

vosko 01-22-2003 09:53 AM

Hitman has it on his website. either it won't let me view it from work or his site is down. i'll check again tonight and post it here if its up

rxrotary2_7 01-22-2003 10:08 AM

i think it is down. i could not view it either, hence the question. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

vosko 01-22-2003 10:29 AM

yup. your supposed to lock the timing then change the crank angle value.... that's all i remember off the top of my head https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

rxrotary2_7 01-22-2003 10:46 AM

ok. what should i lock it to? obviously i am a bit confused and that short explination did not help me. i know you dont know the complete answer, but thanks for trying vosko.

vosko 01-22-2003 10:51 AM

i'm trying to remember did this a few months. when you lock timing supposed to goto -5 BTDC right ? but there is no marking for that on the FD CAS. you have to use a mathematical equation to get the right value for the CAS.... i know it was a pain for judge ito set mine up but you should be VERY careful..... if its not setup correctly you can have timing advance exponentially!!!!!

rxrotary2_7 01-22-2003 11:16 AM

can you get the judge to jump in on this thread? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png maybe help me out? btw...did you get my paypal for the filler neck?

vosko 01-22-2003 11:19 AM

yeah i got it. shipping it out tomorrow



i'll ask. its kind of funny haltech USA doesn't even know how to zero out the timing lol

j9fd3s 01-22-2003 12:38 PM

yah, i cant remember what the fd timing mark is either, but basically the stock ecu knows where tdc is, but the e6k does not you have to tell it



mike

rxrotary2_7 01-24-2003 09:30 AM

ok. i was finaly able to get on hitman's site. this is what it said. figured i would post the answer for the records if someone is to search on this at a latter date. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



- the timing check process for these engines is a little different. Some models of E6S and E6K are not adjustable for the timing lock, and some that are cannot be locked to -20 degrees to line up the single notch these motors have at 20ATDC. To do this check we can cheat a little. Start the engine and lock the timing at 10 degrees, this is the default timing lock number for all Haltech systems. Now with a timing light connected to Lead 1 spark plug lead, check where the mark on the disc lines up. By adjusting the Trigger Angle value make the notch line up with the pointer, remembering that increasing the value retards the ignition and increasing it advances the ignition timing. The engine will die down a bit at this retarded ignition which is normal for now. Once the notch lines up turn the Timing Lock to OFF. Look at your Trigger Angle value and now subtract 30 and enter the new number. For example if the timing lined up at 95 degrees, then a new value of 65 degrees should be entered. Now you are done with zeroing the timing. If you are confused you can email HITman and we will try to answer your questions.

The other easy way is to lock the timing at -5 and check the timing with the light on T1. This should be firing at -20BTDC (20ATDC) and should line up with the notch directly.


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