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Rotorocious 11-17-2006 03:09 PM

I have a 88 TII with a e6x. I just finished installing it. The car will fire but it was acting weird and when i went to check the timing i noticed the trailing coils have no spark.





HELP I'm completely stumped.

My car doesn't fire the trailing coils. It will however fire the leading, the car will start and run but idles like poo. Runs really rich. Lots of smoke.




Originally Posted by Claudio RX-7
I dont know where you got that diagram from, but it doesnt look to me like its right. The Yellow/Blue wire is the tacho wire that goes into the dash, the Blue/Yellow is the one that is connected to the Ign2 signal (DigitalOut1/White-Black wire), Aux.Out (green/black) goes into the brown/yellow wire, and the 2 tan wires are power.



Note! the colors after the connector (bewteen the coil pack and the connector) change colors, so, if you go by those, its this way:



Haltech White/Black wire to Pink coil pack wire

Haltech Green/Black wire to Yellow coil pack wire

Yellow/Blue wire from coil pack to Tacho in dash



Aux.Out wire function in software needs to be setup as Toggle output in the Input/Output setup menu window. Also, sometimes, SOMETIMES!, on the E6X the trailing leads tend to be reversed, so, if you dont get 20 degrees on T1 with the timing light (are 180 degrees out) swap trailing plug wires.



And THAT is how you do it. Also, if you dont know enough about something dont try to do the installation. You'll end up screwing something up.

DId that. Double Checked and triple checked it. Its exactly wired up how you said.....

Now, would it matter if we had to solder a few wires together to make one long wire? We had to extend some wires. Also the CAS is perfectly aligned with the factory mazda install. It looks exactly like this. The only other thing I can think of to check is the CAS wiring. But would that let it run on leading spark only and not trailing? Or is the CAS wiring either all spark or no spark?

I'm getting very f****g frustrated with all of this. Its been a nightmare.

And how about the problem being with the haltech itself? I do notice once the ecu is loading and you try to maximize the screen before its done loading 100% that it gives you an error window and opens like 1000 of them.

Someone please help!





I also checked the coils resistance, as well as the CAS resistance and its all to spec. The 2 prong connector to the trailing coils is getting power as well.



http://www.hitman.hm/MazCAS-2s.jpg

Rotorocious 11-19-2006 07:43 PM

nothing? I'm dying without my car.

ikari89 11-23-2006 01:14 PM

how are you checking for spark?

Rotorocious 11-28-2006 02:07 AM


Originally Posted by ikari89' post='846428' date='Nov 23 2006, 02:14 PM

how are you checking for spark?

when the engine would run on leading only I would just unplug the spark plug wire boot from the coil side and see if it arc'd. I also have a spark tester that goes on the spark plug end of the wire and grounds. Same result.

I'm thinking its a setup issue with the map or something very small I'm over looking.

I just had it towed to Jacksonville to my friends shop, should get to working on it this weekend. While we were there I cranked it and it would just flood, I think we figured out the stock fpr was bad, which makes sense why there was a secondary one on there, I thought the previous owner was just dumb, he never told me the stock fpr was bad. Also when i pulled the trailing plugs the rear one was covered in oil, this is something completely new, I've pulled then a dozen times these past few weeks, so I'm hoping it didn't blow an oil seal.

I'm starting to think this thing will never run right again.

7mech 12-27-2006 06:07 AM

I had this same problem with my E6K when it was first installed. It's been a while so I can't remember how we fixed the problem, but I know for a fact that there was nothing wrong with the computer. Leet me do some research and I"ll get back to you. In the mean time be on the look out for BDC on here, the club, and teamfc3s. He would also be able to answer this question. If you can't wait for a response from either of us then you can try calling rx7.com and talk to Chris Ott. He also can answer this question.

7mech 12-27-2006 06:38 AM

Did a quick search and found this.

[In the E6x software]

- Go to ONLINE mode and load (ALT-F) the supplied base map.

FC3S Ignition/Coil Setup w/ CAS (Ignition Setup):

Spark Mode: Distributor (if using factory ignitors w/ the E6K unit)

Spark Mode: Direct Fire (if using MSD/Bosch aftermarket ignitors, bypassing factory ignitors)

Engine Type: Rotary

Output Type: Constant Charge; 4.5ms; Falling.

- Be careful with these setups. I've experimented w/ setting the Output type to 'Constant Duty' with a 20% setting,

but my trailing ignitor overheated. This particular setting listed above seems to work the best.

- Calibrate the throttle position once you're online.

7mech 12-27-2006 07:17 AM

here is the link for the site that has the info.

e6x install link


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