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vosko 08-29-2002 10:56 AM

just wondering if anyone has used them or has any opinions. both are state of the art. the cool thing about the TEC is it comes with a complete ignition system. i know the motec is good but never really seen one in action https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

13BAce 08-29-2002 01:32 PM

Go with a SAFC and alot of luck. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

vosko 08-29-2002 01:36 PM

if i hook up two SAFC's. it's twice as good right https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

13BAce 08-29-2002 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Aug 29 2002, 11:36 AM
if i hook up two SAFC's. it's twice as good right https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

Yeah, that and an ITC to advance your timing.



If you went with the TEC 3 you'd have a little more support for it. The Windows software they have is very easy to use.

vosko 08-29-2002 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Aug 29 2002, 03:18 PM
[quote name='vosko' date='Aug 29 2002, 11:36 AM']if i hook up two SAFC's. it's twice as good right https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

Yeah, that and an ITC to advance your timing.



If you went with the TEC 3 you'd have a little more support for it. The Windows software they have is very easy to use.[/quote]

i'm thinking about the TEC3 because it has that super duper ignition system out of the box https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

13BAce 08-29-2002 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Aug 29 2002, 12:27 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Aug 29 2002, 03:18 PM'][quote name='vosko' date='Aug 29 2002, 11:36 AM']if i hook up two SAFC's. it's twice as good right https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

Yeah, that and an ITC to advance your timing.



If you went with the TEC 3 you'd have a little more support for it. The Windows software they have is very easy to use.[/quote]

i'm thinking about the TEC3 because it has that super duper ignition system out of the box https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png[/quote]

Yeah, that system is pretty damn powerful.

vosko 08-29-2002 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Aug 29 2002, 03:29 PM
[quote name='vosko' date='Aug 29 2002, 12:27 PM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Aug 29 2002, 03:18 PM'][quote name='vosko' date='Aug 29 2002, 11:36 AM']if i hook up two SAFC's. it's twice as good right https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

Yeah, that and an ITC to advance your timing.



If you went with the TEC 3 you'd have a little more support for it. The Windows software they have is very easy to use.[/quote]

i'm thinking about the TEC3 because it has that super duper ignition system out of the box https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png[/quote]

Yeah, that system is pretty damn powerful.[/quote]

i figured out haltech E6k + msd ignition = Tec 3. so why not just get a tec 3 ? atleast that's my reasoning https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif

13BAce 08-29-2002 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Aug 29 2002, 12:35 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Aug 29 2002, 03:29 PM'][quote name='vosko' date='Aug 29 2002, 12:27 PM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Aug 29 2002, 03:18 PM'][quote name='vosko' date='Aug 29 2002, 11:36 AM']if i hook up two SAFC's. it's twice as good right https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

Yeah, that and an ITC to advance your timing.



If you went with the TEC 3 you'd have a little more support for it. The Windows software they have is very easy to use.[/quote]

i'm thinking about the TEC3 because it has that super duper ignition system out of the box https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png[/quote]

Yeah, that system is pretty damn powerful.[/quote]

i figured out haltech E6k + msd ignition = Tec 3. so why not just get a tec 3 ? atleast that's my reasoning https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif[/quote]

Yeah, and you could give me the Haltech for $1. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

vosko 08-29-2002 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Aug 29 2002, 03:56 PM
[quote name='vosko' date='Aug 29 2002, 12:35 PM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Aug 29 2002, 03:29 PM'][quote name='vosko' date='Aug 29 2002, 12:27 PM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Aug 29 2002, 03:18 PM'][quote name='vosko' date='Aug 29 2002, 11:36 AM']if i hook up two SAFC's. it's twice as good right https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

Yeah, that and an ITC to advance your timing.



If you went with the TEC 3 you'd have a little more support for it. The Windows software they have is very easy to use.[/quote]

i'm thinking about the TEC3 because it has that super duper ignition system out of the box https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png[/quote]

Yeah, that system is pretty damn powerful.[/quote]

i figured out haltech E6k + msd ignition = Tec 3. so why not just get a tec 3 ? atleast that's my reasoning https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif[/quote]

Yeah, and you could give me the Haltech for $1. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif[/quote]

if anything the haltech will go into my TII https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

j9fd3s 08-29-2002 04:23 PM

yah, the tech3 has some plusses, you have to change more than the harness, but maybe you were doing that anyways....

the new e11 haltech looks pretty cool too



mike

vosko 08-29-2002 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Aug 29 2002, 05:23 PM
yah, the tech3 has some plusses, you have to change more than the harness, but maybe you were doing that anyways....

the new e11 haltech looks pretty cool too



mike

the new e11 does look cool but i just want a complete package https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

13BAce 08-30-2002 02:04 AM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Aug 29 2002, 02:23 PM
yah, the tech3 has some plusses, you have to change more than the harness, but maybe you were doing that anyways....

the new e11 haltech looks pretty cool too



mike

Where did you find information on the E11, the Haltech site?

vosko 08-30-2002 09:55 AM

OK guys, it's official. Haltech has given me the OK to annouce the release of the new E11 engine management system. The full release is slated for September 10th when it should be available from all dealers. Here are the specs that I know alot of people have been waiting to see. For those of you who rememeber when I was asking what features you would all like, you can see why now.







Basic Specs of the E11





* Full 32 bit system



* Comes with mil-spec wiring



* Halwin3 Windows based programming software only - there will be no DOS version.



* Enough drivers to run a V8 with sequential injection AND direct fire ignition. 6-cylinder sequential injection with 6-coil sequential direct fire ignition is no problem.



* Individual injector and ignition trims



* On-board wide band control.



* CAN support



* Injection time down to 0.004ms , ignition timing down to 0.1 degrees.



* Variable load and rpm points. 32x32.



* Full 720 degree phase timing control of injectors with choice of End or Start of Injection.



* TPS, 1,2,3,5 Bar MAP, Air Flow Meter all available as load inputs.



* Advanced throttle pump control, fully mappable.



* Built in firmware update facility and full diagnostics even for the trigger.



* Idle control has a tonne more features.



* 3-rotor AND 4-rotor full support. The 20B is completely covered and will run staged and sequential injection along with 6-coil direct fire ignition with full 32x32 map for trail split timing control.



* Those of you with a rotary, the Oil Metering Pump is supported and allows mapping of the oil injection system !



* Dual on-board maps are directly supported.



* On board datalogging. No need for a laptop to be connected to do datalogging. Log rate up to 250 samples per second !!!



* Boost control is 3D mappable.



* Many more trigger systems covered, with an updated internal RA system as well. Motronic support built in.



* 5x Digital Inputs , 4x dedicated PWM with spare outputs available, 2x AuxOuts , 8x Spare A/D inputs.



* Software comes on CD and manual comes in PDF format.



* Many more features to come in future as firmware updates.



-----



* No, you cannot upgrade your E6K to E11



* No, the connector is not the same. E11 uses two connectors.



* No, there are no trade-ins.



* Sensors are the same , but the connector pack may change.







Phewww , taking a deep breathe after getting all that out. :-)

There is alot more but it would take me ages to write it all out. Anyone intersted in getting the E11 can drop me a personal email.



Any other comments.



--

Matt

Hitman Injection Tuning

http://www.hitman.hm

13BAce 08-30-2002 01:46 PM

It sounds too good to be true? How much? If it does what they say I'll buy one right away. 9/10 is when I get paid. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

vosko 08-30-2002 01:47 PM

he said around $1500

1Revvin7 08-30-2002 04:20 PM

damn too bad i just bought the e6k. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

vosko 08-30-2002 04:27 PM

did you get it yet ?

dac 08-30-2002 05:08 PM

Does that mean the HALWIN software will finally be available in Sept? I haven't been following it lately.



Anyone with a 13B should consider the Haltech, The Mazda support is great.

vosko 08-30-2002 05:39 PM

the halwin will only work on the E11. halwin will be supported later for the E6K. as per hitman

13BAce 08-31-2002 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Aug 30 2002, 11:47 AM
he said around $1500

That's a damn good price.

vosko 09-01-2002 02:37 PM

i might be getting a tec III

13BAce 09-01-2002 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Sep 1 2002, 12:37 PM
i might be getting a tec III

Wait for the TEC IV to come out. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

vosko 09-01-2002 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Sep 1 2002, 04:02 PM
[quote name='vosko' date='Sep 1 2002, 12:37 PM']i might be getting a tec III

Wait for the TEC IV to come out. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif[/quote]

i'm waiting for tec XXX https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

13BAce 09-01-2002 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Sep 1 2002, 01:14 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Sep 1 2002, 04:02 PM'][quote name='vosko' date='Sep 1 2002, 12:37 PM']i might be getting a tec III

Wait for the TEC IV to come out. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif[/quote]

i'm waiting for tec XXX https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif[/quote]

That's the spirit. Then you can race your car in the "classic" classes. :P


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