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base94montego 12-13-2006 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by SPICcnmGT' post='848926' date='Dec 13 2006, 09:22 AM

I replaced mine with the stock wires and I have a good many more mods than you, and I haven't had any problems.



I think some of the aftermarket wires don't fit exactly right, just like herblenny said.



I see, are there any good aftermareket wires that might add a few hp or any other gain or should I just go ahead with stock?

rfreeman27 12-13-2006 09:09 AM

The stock wires are cheap and good!



at least you will have an extra set on hand if it turns out to be something else.

SPICcnmGT 12-13-2006 10:37 AM

None are really going to give you a hp gain. They will just return what was lost from the bad wires.

herblenny 12-13-2006 11:20 AM

I agree with what SPIC said.. Unless you are maxing out the limit of stock wires or bottle necking with the stock wires, its pointless to think that you will be gaining HP by thicker wires. With your mods, I think its ok to go with NGK vs. something that doesn't fit right and might pop off at wrong times...

base94montego 12-21-2006 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by herblenny' post='848955' date='Dec 13 2006, 12:20 PM

I agree with what SPIC said.. Unless you are maxing out the limit of stock wires or bottle necking with the stock wires, its pointless to think that you will be gaining HP by thicker wires. With your mods, I think its ok to go with NGK vs. something that doesn't fit right and might pop off at wrong times...



I do also notice that when it does stall out, it always starts right away on the next try. Is this another clue that it might be the plugs?

herblenny 12-21-2006 07:57 AM

SINCE the plugs are so cheap, I say go ahead and buy some and try it out. Its hard to pin point as I don't know the condition of your car nor your ignition system.



Like I said earlier, i change my plugs about 3k-5k.. I currently have 40-60 NGKs at home + another 40 or so used ones in a box (you could clean it and reuse it). I think of it as cheap insurance and I always know if I have any ignition issues, it can't be the plugs.



GO change it out and see. Small things like plugs and wires could make a huge noticeable difference.. Are you afraid to change it for some reason??

base94montego 12-21-2006 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by herblenny' post='849792' date='Dec 21 2006, 08:57 AM

SINCE the plugs are so cheap, I say go ahead and buy some and try it out. Its hard to pin point as I don't know the condition of your car nor your ignition system.



Like I said earlier, i change my plugs about 3k-5k.. I currently have 40-60 NGKs at home + another 40 or so used ones in a box (you could clean it and reuse it). I think of it as cheap insurance and I always know if I have any ignition issues, it can't be the plugs.



GO change it out and see. Small things like plugs and wires could make a huge noticeable difference.. Are you afraid to change it for some reason??



Oh no, just haven't gotten around to it yet.

base94montego 12-29-2006 11:33 AM

I spoke with a few other people about this issue and they think it could be the base idle level. I might need to adjust it to a little higher because on warm starts my ecu is not catching the low idle

rfreeman27 01-02-2007 12:28 PM

did you do the plugs yet?

herblenny 01-03-2007 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by base94montego' post='850732' date='Dec 29 2006, 09:33 AM

I spoke with a few other people about this issue and they think it could be the base idle level. I might need to adjust it to a little higher because on warm starts my ecu is not catching the low idle



WHAT??



Far as what I know, if your idle is set too high, car will hunt. I don't think you'll have starting issues as you could give little throttle for higher rpm..



What I don't understand is why you are searching for other options when its so easy to change the wires... Wires are cheap and takes 15-30 mins to swap. If you haven't done this in years, I would go ahead and give that a try before you try something else.


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