hey guys, i'm thinking of getting a torque brace, does it work???

i'm always missing three when i drive the car hard... thinking about getting a torque brace and a short shifter... comments???

Have you checked your motor mounts? I have heard there are stiffer motor mounts you can buy that will help with this problem. Although I've never personally had any problems with mis-shifting...

no i haven't thought of that... it seems to me it be alot easier to install a torque brace and a short shifter.... i think i'm not the only one who misses third gear... i see on the forum alot... uuummmmmm.....

a torque brace will help, it did in my car. I made my own, which is what a lot of guys are doing now.

Oh and on a side note, all that bs about how hard it is to change a motor mount is just that BS!!! Here's the easy way without droping the subchassis.

Get under the car and unbolt the nut from each motormount to subchassis.

Use a block of wood and a jack under the oil pan to lift the engine about 2 inches.

Use a 17mm wrench to loosen the 3 bolts on each motormount to engine.

Take out motor mount. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Save lots of $$$

Do what you want, but I think the correct way to fix the problem (assuming the problem *is* broken motor mounts) would be to fix the motor mounts. If that isn't the problem, then do the short shifter. I'd be hesitant to install a torque brace, although people have had them on the "other" forum for several months with no problems.



Never said you were the only one... I was just saying *I* have never had this problem, so take my advice with a grain of salt... :yum:



Of course then again I run track, and don't street race (like the "other" forum crew), maybe that is why. Mis-shifting can be a lot more deadly/costly on a road track than street/drag racing, so you tend to be a little less casual about it. I saw the results of an NSX misshift from the top of 3rd gear into 2nd in the middle of a high-speed turn once, the results were not pretty.

ive seen that too, it was a 1st gen though.

my friend mentioned that he had the knightsports torque arm, way back in the day.

they told him to only use it racing, but he had it in all the time and it tore the body.

he does drive really hard, but there is a downside to the torque braces



mike

wow....good thing i'd asked.. i only drive my car on the weekends... so when i do, i drive it pretty hard... i'll just stick with the short shifter, if that doesn't work....i'll try the motor mounts.

ive seen that too, it was a 1st gen though.

my friend mentioned that he had the knightsports torque arm, way back in the day.

they told him to only use it racing, but he had it in all the time and it tore the body.

he does drive really hard, but there is a downside to the torque braces



mike[/quote]

I'm not keen on torque rods either. The culprit is usually the gearbox mount. OEM they are a bit soft to supress noise, gearboxes make quite a lot. I used to sometimes not be able to get fourth out of a 150 degree uphill left hander we have here, got a Nolathane gearbox mount made, problem solved. Bit more noise in the cabin. Later got a C's short shifter (only because the price was too good to pass up) and must admit to being converted! Much nicer to shift now!

I love my DIY torque brace. It was cake to install and stopped ANY mis-shifts into 3rd gear. I know Dragon's car survived 2 years with a broken engine mount and a torque brace. Now he's got solid engine mounts.

so you don't have a problem with the torque brace ripping your body????

Nope. I bought one off of the group buy on the evil bad forum like 6 months ago with no problems. It kicks ass---really tightens up the shift gates. It definitely improved my times at the drag strip.



Also, mine is a Reagon Racing brace, which is claimed to have been tested over the course of three years of road race, drag race, and auto-x with no detrimental effects to the firewall or UIM.



Gotham Racing is having an initial batch made up right now. I took mine off to use as a template and I can definitely tell a major difference with it off.

I got in on that same buy that Rich did. That torque brace is awesome. I never had much of a problem mishifting but talk about better throttle response. Boy does it make a noticable difference. I was really pleased with the response time from pedal to wheel. I never had any problems with mine on the firewall or anywhere else for that matter. I also have a mazdaspeed shifter FYI.

To answer your question to you thread



YES it works..



Jason

www.jt-imports.com

I am definitely for free enterprise and all but aren't you a little ahsamed to admit this?

haha

I am definitely for free enterprise and all but aren't you a little ahsamed to admit this?[/quote]

I dont get it???? What would he be ashamed to admit???



Stephen

I haven't mis-shifted since i got my new b&m short shifter, is this the only thing that a torque brace helps with? or are there any other advantages.

Yea like I said in my post you get some better throttle response as you don't lose as much energy is the engine rocking and it all gets transfered to the drive line.



Welcome to nopistons btw https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

thanks, i'll post some pics of the FD in a new thread later today https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

i like th efeel of the torque brace. i just got mine in from the communist rx7 store as it is sometimes called. i think that it is money. the motor doesn't tweak and shutter now. YES my mounts are brand new. i have a b/m shifter as well, and think that the combe of that and the brace make the driving and feel of the car MUCH MORE PRECISE.



the shifter bobs less also.



you can't go wrong. if it tears up the fender, I WILL REPORT IT. however, that happens to be a double layered spot on the fender, so i do not think that it will pose a problem....



louis

I am definitely for free enterprise and all but aren't you a little ahsamed to admit this?[/quote]

I dont get it???? What would he be ashamed to admit???



Stephen[/quote]

Does "Ripoff" mean anything to you?

I am definitely for free enterprise and all but aren't you a little ahsamed to admit this?[/quote]

I dont get it???? What would he be ashamed to admit???



Stephen[/quote]

Hi Stephen,



the point I was trying to make is that we are going to manufacture a product based off of a proven and known quantity, and will offer it for a lot less than the $170 I paid for mine. I apologize if I was unclear about the issue...I probably should be more careful with some of my sleep-deprived posts https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



take it easy--