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helihansen 02-03-2003 04:04 PM

I had to take off my upper manifold today because I am trying to diagnose a fuel leak. How realisitic is it for me to do the solenoid and turbo simplification mod right now? God I HATE all those stupid vacuum lines. No I mean I REALLY hate them https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

Danno 02-03-2003 06:05 PM

Looks like you didn't get any replies. I would say to use your judjment on this one.

Joe Flo 02-03-2003 06:06 PM


turbo simplification


Do you mean for none sequential??? theres a topic for that.

Fd3BOOST 02-03-2003 06:13 PM

Danno, I cant read everything at once.



helihanson this place has few members that have a good working knowledge on the Fd.

So be patient and we will try to help, if we can when we read your posts.



The turbo simplification is pretty straight forward.

The benefits are minimal, but if you do want to decrease the number of hoses then it may suit you.

You are still left with alot of hoses though.



Wade did a pretty good write up on it, It's available on Robinettes site.

You may or maynot have known that but here is the link anyway..

http://www.rx7turboturbo.com/robrobinette/...plification.htm

Fd3BOOST 02-03-2003 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Flo' date='Feb 3 2003, 04:06 PM
Do you mean for none sequential??? theres a topic for that.

No the simplification of the sequential setup is a different procedure.

r_xplicit 02-03-2003 09:16 PM

YES NOW IS THE BEST TIME. DO NOT PUT IT OFF, you might change your mind. it is not hard at all, it just takes some getting used to looking at all those lines and **** and learning which ones you will need. wait, there are only about 5 lines that you will end up with.....those pesky little hoses will be out of your hair soon....



repost if you decide....

helihansen 02-03-2003 09:23 PM

Im not afraid of the work just was kinda hopin to be able to drive down to the hooters meet on the 23rd. Problems arise when your garage is filled and you dont have lots of time off for everything. Ohh well maybe I will just see if i cant still prove myself wrong and get the old beast to the event. Thanks for the replies. Fd3boost I am well aware of the site but I guess sometimes its just better to have reassurance before you just jump head first into something. :bigthumg:

TYSON 02-03-2003 09:32 PM

Do it. I did the block off plates for everything at the same time. If you move all the solenoids onto the rail, just keep track of which plug goes back with which solenoid. You can get rid of half the solenoids (emissions) right away. I kept all the turbo related ones, just made sure they hooked up where they were supposed to. I studied the workshop manual a lot before I did this though. All for nothing, now, cause I no longer have any Mazda solenoids https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

amp 02-03-2003 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by helihansen' date='Feb 3 2003, 05:04 PM
I had to take off my upper manifold today because I am trying to diagnose a fuel leak. How realisitic is it for me to do the solenoid and turbo simplification mod right now? God I HATE all those stupid vacuum lines. No I mean I REALLY hate them https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

diagnosing the fuel in itself can prove to be a daunting task...

so unless youve already done the SH ziptie while your there.. do so

understanding the sequential setup will help you get over the hatred...

its complexity imho is actually quite kewl..

id wait till theres a need for simplification...like emissions removal...

helihansen 02-03-2003 10:36 PM

Tyson thanks! I think im gonna go youre route and just get rid of as much stuff as possible. I think thats one of the biggest feats of owning a stock car. You have to remov all the stuff thats not needed in order to REALY work on the car and have fun tuning it. Thanks again to you all I REALLy appreciate everyones input. Hmmm now for the hard part.....decidig on what color vacuum line to get :bigok:

helihansen 02-03-2003 10:46 PM

Ps anyone have any suggestions on what hose they use or what you would reccomend. I just flipped though summit and all I see is akimoto and chikara hose. Cheap vacuum hose is cool for hondas but not on my baby :bigok:

amp 02-03-2003 10:49 PM

here

r_xplicit 02-04-2003 12:16 AM

you do not need to remember where the solenoid plugs go. at that point, it is irrelevant. just get rid of the plugs alltogether, and use some resistors. 1/2 watt & 330ohm. with a male spade connector on each tip, and just plug them into the connectors and you are done....only one resistor per [2 prong] connector....





good luck...

helihansen 02-04-2003 05:48 AM

Alright as always thanks to everyone who has contributed. A couple last questions I have first off how much vacuum line do I need to order? I see hose techniques has a kit for our car $118!!!! and the stuff only sells for about a dollar a foot!!! Second Rxplicit you say "Just get rid of the plugs altogether". Which plugs are you directly refferring to? Im assuming the emissions ones? Thanks again to all who have helped out. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif

SPOautos 02-04-2003 09:38 AM

Your not going to need much line, I just went to Advanced Auto and bought some standard black vac line. Just get about 10 feet, thats way too much but so what its only going to cost like $10. You dont need any fancy vac line unless you just want it for some reason.



Even if it hardens and you have to replace it 60,000 miles from now, who gives a ****, it'll take about 20 minutes



Also as far as the harness plugs are concerned do you have a Power FC? If not you need those plugs and you have to put the resisters in them. If you DO have a PFC then you can just cut out the unused connectors. Personally I'd wait till you crank the car, drive around and know its all correct and working right before cutting the unused plugs out.



STEPHEN

helihansen 02-04-2003 09:10 PM

No I dont have a power Fc. Another kinda stupid question I have. Anyone recall how many resistors they used or how many solenoids they are left with? If I am correct I should still have 3 solenoids remaining??


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