Which one would you buy? and why? oh and any pros and cons about any of the 3 cars?



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P.S : I know it's kind of a stupid question to ask on a rotary engine forum, but still... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blush.gif

skyline: bad because of parts availibilty and cost in the US, awd system very problematic especially the older the components are

supra: too heavy, looks like a whale with wheels

rx-7: lighter. although you may go through more rebuilt engine than above cars keep in mind the cost is significantly lower than a built up supra or skyline engine.

my vote: RX-7 https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.gif

Poopra FTW!!!

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I had a Supra TT6 and it was the best car I have owned to date, unbelievable build quality, amazing reliability, very easy to get more power, mine had about 420 BHP. I had mine for 3 1/2 years and I never had to spend anything on repairs, just normal maintenance and of course plenty of tuning parts.



The Skyline will cost more for a similar age of car but they are know to eat diffs once you start modifying but otherwise are fairly bulletproof.



The RX-7, which I am hoping to be an owner of soon, is in a different league in terms of how you can use it, i.e. it is so much lighter than the other 2 cars and therefore so much more 'chuckable' (not sure if chuckable is a term that Americans are familiar with). However, the RX-7's uniquenes, due to the rotary engine, can also be viewed as it's weakpoint, many people fear the rotary engine due to it's relative fragility and need for re-builds more often than a piston engine. But the looks........I don't need to say anything!



There's only only one way to decide, drive all three and see what floats your boat.



Supra - Super reliable, tuneable, but a bit large and not ideal on twisties.

Skyline - Very sure footed 4wd, performance you can use in all weather conditions, very tough cars.

RX-7 - Extremely agile, can be a handful in the wet, super smooth rotary performance, more suited to the 'hands on' owner, plenty of tuning choices.



Hope this helps

The word "Supra" actually means Killer Whale.

id want all three...

Skyline is to rare. I assume the parts are most likely either expensive or hard to come by.

Supra, Personally I never cared for the look of the interior or exterior. No matter how good the engine is if I don't like the looks then it's out in my mind. I also think it is a bit of a boat.



So the rx7 is my choice still. It's small, light, nimble, fast and dead sexy. I won't comment on it's reliability. Moth to the flame analogy applied.

thanks a lot! sorry for the last answer to your post, but it helped a lot! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif

yeah! I agree with you, the look is also very important to me..that's why I don't really want a skyline r32..because IMO they are ugly...but I like the supra look a little bit more than the RX7 and it seems so much more reliable..so it's a hard choice...ok the supra can't match the rx7 maniability, but I don't really want to drift or lap race...well I think...and i'm not really interested in drag either...



I just want a fast sexy car, my main goal only being able to easily beat those little civics freaks that are 17 years old, have a rusty car and think they are the kings of the world.... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.gif

being from new zealand, i would never have a skyline, i would drive it off a cliff https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif they are everywhere https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif



dont see to many supra's but yea i dont like them, never have never will.



and yea ive got a rota as a heart so rx7 it is. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.gif



but like someone else said, go drive them all and make up your own mind on what you want.

I had a Skyline R32 GTS-T until very recently (Just sold it and bought an RX-7 FD). The skyline is a VERY nice car, make no mistake. And they are not as rare as you might think, consider that skylines are legal to import into Canada so parts can be bought from Canadian cars that have gotten into wrecks. Also you'd be surprised at the number of 240SX parts that work with the Skyline R32, as well as Fairlady Z32 parts.



But overall I think that the RX-7FD is a better sports car driving experience, while the Skyline in any shape or form is a WAY better GT car. It's heavier, it's a little more predictable in most cases, and the engine is possibly one of the most solid tuning engines ever built.



I have no experience with the supra.



You cannot go wrong with either a skyline or an RX7. The only problems the FD has is the reliability. If you're an FD owner you need to have deep pockets or you need to be ok with turning your own wrenches. There is a lot that can go wrong on a twin SEQUENTIAL turbo, with a rotary engine. It's kind of like the odds are stacked against it. But still a very good concept even if a little higher maintenance than many other engines. It's a sports car, the maintenance obligations come with the car!

Ok, the 7 for me.



two weeks ago in Reno i passed a race prepped Ferrari 355 on the track. My car is running seqentials still, and about 320 RWHP. Yes the driver was not the best but i doubt the Supra could have done it.



I have an STi as well so while 4WD is very nice esp in the rain but i prefer the driving experience of the RX7, and the subie is no slouch but it is what i like to drive, track and be seen in.

WOW



I went through this! When I sold my previous car I had about 20k to work with. That would buy me a decent R32 GTR (with no money left over) A Supra, or an FD. My friends all wanted me to get a Skyline. It is the apidimy of coolness (and performance) right? I have found the GTR a bit heavy for my liking, I would rather have less power and less weight than more power and more weight. (you can always add power anyways weight is hard to take off) I think its because we don't have Skylines in the US, what you cant have or see is brought up to a higher level. Just like the giant in "Big Fish" something thats imagined is always exaggerated. Not that the Skyline isn't a good car, its a great car but no car is perfect. In the US people don't buy skylines to race, they buy them to be cool. An FD will take a Skyline in the mountains. It is smaller and more nimble. There are conditions though where the Skyline would take the FD though I don't want to get into this too deeply. The Supra is a nice car, I was never that attracted to it though. I was at a Toyota dealership once and they had a pretty black one. It is just so BIG! I would have drove it but it was an automatic. I didn't want to waste the dealers time and my time.



I will have an FD when I move to Japan and my bf a R32. R32's are a dime a dozen there, you can fit 4 people in it and it doesn't require the maitenence the FD does. Although rotary engines are a dime a dozen there as well I am sure my FD will be down every so often and I may need to go somewhere I can't (or don't want to) take the bus.

To sum up:



Supra: Big, Japanese monster waiting to be unleashed with your wallet. Endless aftermarket JDM parts available. Think of it as the muscle car. Easy power, RWD, hope you don't have to take a corner too fast on stock suspension. Relatively inexpensive imported from Japan.



Skyline R32 GTR: Smaller, but with a very heavy (600lbs over the GTS-T) over-engineered and to this day, state of the art 4wd system. Someof the best stock ECU tuning out there (5 automatically adjusting fuel maps depending on how you drive). Thankfully this car comes with a piston engine that can run into the 700hp range without having to swap out internals. Again, with the wllet in hand, ever more endless JDM parts available for this car. More specifically, all R32, R33, R34 RB26DETT parts are swappable to an extent that's 16 years of RB tech out there. Oh, and almost any competent mechanic can work on it. Think of this as the tuner car. GTR's are still very desirable in Japan, finding a no accident car for sale is difficult for a good price. Anything over 50k on the engine, it has to be rebuilt, no questions asked.



FD: Smallest. RWD, 50/50 weight distribution. Finicky to say the least. But out and out a true driver's car, get in turn the key, and turn hot laps (not too hot!!!). Good luck finding a mechanic to work on it, and even more luck to you if you wish to diagnose a porblem yourself involving the turbo system. Far less potential for HP's than the previous two, but way less weight, and with only suspension upgrades you can easily take on a GTR with many power adders. You will be forced to work on it yourself (which I think is what really sells this car to us rotor heads young and old), which if you'd like to join our little club, is not a problem. Oh and, this car was available for sale in Japan for 10 years. To the end it was contending with some real heavyweights (don't believe me? search r34 or fd3s lap battle on youtube, find the one with tsukuba circuit 5 lap battle) and there are a more than a few aftemarket parts out there for it. And even a few dedicated JDM rotary tuners (FEED, RE-A, Scoote, R-Magic, AutoExe). Think of this as the exotic car. You can pick a JDM FD up for around the same price as the Supra.







oh, and the guy who passed a 355? I'm told by my boss, (who owns a Porsche, Lotus and Lamborghini dealership) who has spent a fair amount of time behind the wheel of numerous Ferrari's, that the car is quite gutless. Not to rain on your parade, but I believe his words were "That car pulls like a sewing machine".

thank you guys! all of your posts were really enlighting, however I still don't know which one to choose LOL!....the RX7 is small and sexy..but I don't really have any place to work on a car..nor the time to do it..the supra is quite expensive..I could only get the automatic TT or the Manual N/A with the money I got..and the R32..well It's to common..too big...too..."unoriginal"..

supra tt m/t should run you about the same as an FD of the same condition... (that is directly out of japan)

come to Australia and you will tire of supras and skylines within a week. Oz has become a dumping ground, im not exaggerating too, they are literally everywhere.



We're still relatively fd free because of the rotary reputation and the exorbiant price tags.

i've checked the prices with my importer and the supra tt especially the manual 6 speeds is WAY over my price range...a little bit more than twice the price of a rx7 tt in mint condition..lol so I guess that my poll will now be more like "SUPRA N/A VS SKYLINE R32 GTR VS RX7 FD TT"....if some of you want to correct their answers considering this new factor lol...

Come to england where rx-7's are worth about £2. http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/rx7_Cars_W...R34QQsacatZ9801



The weird thing is that they are much rarer than skylines and supras here, but damn they are worth nothing over here anymore, simply because of all teh crap coming from japan

Nissan Skyline R32 GTR: RB26DETT 2.6L Inline 6, 280hp at 6800rpm, although it was actually approximately 320hp.

Great car, a bit expensive though for its age. Reliable, the engine is capable of up to 500hp...not sure about reliability up there though. Great looks, great stock performance, great AWD car...and if you want a RWD R32 you can get an RB20DET powered GTS-T.

Design based on the Porsche 959



Toyota Supra JZA80 TT: 2JZ-GTE 3.0L Inline 6, 276hp for the JDM ver. For the USDM ver 320hp @ 5600rpm. Great car, same HP as the Skyline, a bit on the heavy side. RB26 is smaller and capable of the same power as the 2JZ, capable of great HP with stock rotating assembly. Great looks, great stock performance, and RWD for the drifting enthusiasts.

Design based partly on the Ferrari F40



Mazda RX7 FD3S TT: 13B-REW 1.3L Rotary Engine, tons of models like the skyline including Type R1, R2, RS, RZ, Spirit R. s6 92'-95' 230hp, s7 96'-98' 240hp, s8 99'-02' Type RS had 276 hp although it was rated at 290-308hp. Type RZ included all the features of the RS but at a lighter weight. At last the Spirit R, Type A has a 5-speed and is the best of the 3, Type B is a 2+2 and also has a 5-speed, Type C is also a 2+2 but its a 4speed automatic.

Like the Skyline the FD3S has many many models but they are easier to get IMO than the Skyline models as most of the R32s you'll find are GTRs or GTS-Ts. The RX7 is by far the sexiest design of the 3, and the pop up heads are just amazing, but If you feel like switching them out for some sweet projectors you can. The car has amazing performance stock, and its also RWD. Not too sure what its design was based apon.



Anyway, I hope that helped you.

well i owned a R32 GT-R and it was awesome!! i currently own a R33 GTS-T for my wife and sold my GT-R........and bought a FD. I would drive my FD over the skylines any day!!



still have not driven a supra.

Why is the Fairlady Z (300ZX) not on your list???

doesn't really like it's design https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/unsure.gif

I don't know why everyone points out that an RX-7 is unreliable. It really is reliable. The only problem is the driver. Some of them always seem to dog the crap out of it. Honestly, if you think that lasting 100k miles isn't reliable, then you should just get a Honda. If you dog on any sports car they are bound to break.



That's the only reason that the engine seems to get worn down, and a lot of the time they forget to redline in order to get rid of the carbon built up in the engine!!!!

what do you mean?

gday guys

this is my first post im from australia.

im about to get an fd (2 weeks)

but i have also owned an r32 gtr and a supra tt6.



they were both great very roomy and very very fast (both had over 350kw/500hp at the wheels)

what ever u choose would be awesome.



cheers

Up here in Canada you see Skylines left and right. I'm a current owner of an R32 and love it! I have an FD on its way from Japan and my buddy has a MKIV Supra coming from there as well. So once they get here I'll let you guys know my vote https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif

im from new zealand, and have a 96 type-RS FD.

skylines are EVERYWHERE here. I dont like them at all. They are big, heavy, very ugly and cheap. The back of them is hidious, horrible even...im sure they are good cars but they are just plain ugly in my eyes, they look like someone got a square bit of wood, slightly shaped the front - did nothing to the back and called it a skyline...UGLY!!!



Supra would be my second choice (rx7 first) and lastly the ugly skyline..



I can understand how other countries can think they are something more special then they are as people always want what they cant get, and hold it in higher regard since it is not easily accessible.., well over here they are easy to get, i agree they can be made to be great /have great potential but they really are nothing special stock..like i said i agree they have massive potential -- but thats it, its potential, they arnt great right off the bat like the FD.



as far as redlining to get rid of carbon in a rotary goes -- rotary engines build up carbon which can lead to premature engine failure or seize the engine up. it is common thought that if you redline your rotary once in awhile it is said to help reduce the buildup of carbon increasing engine life.

+111111111 FD3S

300zx twin turbo ..Probably the best and most under-rated......solid engine.....reliable. nissans are just constructed so much better all around...too bad we now only have the 350z



Rx7, squeaky, plasticy,clunky, cheaply made and unreliable, ..but fun, and looks good. just have one of these other cars and your gold! to bad we now only have the rx8( ugliest car ive ever seen)



Supras looked good when I played gran tourismo for the first time... then i saw one in real life...its amazing how much bad graphics mask.... its a japanese camaro to sum it up.... looks like a dildo with a dorsal fin.. to bad toyota doesnt make **** now



id choose gt-r if they were sold here.. it may lack in stying but for good reason, its all function...no bs id probably get the r32 just because its the lightest and has an rb26...to bad we have only the g35..(for now)



3000gt vr4/ gto .... good intention but... too many names, too heavy.... too much wing('98)...

why do they all have chrome rims??



NSX? too bad honda didnt turbo that car originally...but thats no surprise...a little expensive . great handling great looking, MR set up, light...wide, low COG and very reliable... the king kong to nissans godzilla gtr



but the sad fact is that people in japan had a choice between these domestics while we are all stuck with the camaro, firebird, transam, gto, and vette..(all the same car by the way) and mustangs.... which arent really cars anyway and truly are as fast as a single horse