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NRTI RX 10-05-2007 07:38 AM

Hi guys im new to this website thought i should look into it abit more before i buy an rx7. I was just wondering if you could rip the turbo's out of any of the models from '92 - '02? Might sound like a stupid question cause i obviously think you can but i've been told you cant. If you can would the rotor seals stuff up as quick as they normally would? If anyone can fill me on the ups and downs of it thanks https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif

NRTI RX 10-05-2007 07:55 AM

Ok well its not letting me edit so ill just post under it. I kind of left something out, what would i have to do to change a 13b REW.. to NA?

bigjim 10-05-2007 09:09 AM

i have no idea but why would you do that

NRTI RX 10-05-2007 09:20 AM

beacuse the new laws in australia - victoria, you cant drive turbo, v8's or high powered V6's.. so i was thinking of NA tuning the engine or finding some rotor engine that is NA?

bigjim 10-05-2007 09:37 AM

get a 2nd gen 13b NA. Note though, 1.3 turbo isnt a turbo v8 or high powered v6. id try that.

Mahjik 10-05-2007 10:45 AM

Yes, you can make a 13B-REW NA. You basically just block off (or loop) the oil and coolant connections for the turbos, remove the intercooler and run the intake right to a air filter, and use a different exhaust manifold. Here in the US, there is a racing organization called SCCA. They have a division where there are quite a few tube-framed 3rd Gen RX-7's which are running NA, but they are generally peripheral ported engines. However, since they are race cars (and tube-framed at that), they are much lighter than a street car. Add in the peripheral ported engine and it makes a very good power to weight ratio. Without any real engine work on the 13B-REW, a street version of the RX7 and an NA 13B-REW will make a horrible power to weight ratio.

2turbos 10-05-2007 10:46 AM

Don't they "grandfather" older cars there? Removing the turbos might cause the car to pollute more. I can see them banning new cars with performance

options. Man, it sounds like where you live isn't much fun. Your politicians need to be voted out of office!




Originally Posted by NRTI RX' post='884509' date='Oct 5 2007, 06:20 AM
beacuse the new laws in australia - victoria, you cant drive turbo, v8's or high powered V6's.. so i was thinking of NA tuning the engine or finding some rotor engine that is NA?


Mahjik 10-05-2007 10:59 AM

Oops, forgot to mention you'll need a standalone ECU to tune the mapping.

NRTI RX 10-05-2007 09:10 PM

Big jim what do you mean the 1.3 turbo isnt a turbo? lol and mahjik what do you think i should do with it? Seeing as tho i cant drive turbo charged cars.. Oh and 2turbos what do you mean by "grandfather the cars"? yeah where im living now its kind of no fun at all with these new laws that are in place.

Mahjik 10-05-2007 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by NRTI RX' post='884701' date='Oct 5 2007, 09:10 PM
Big jim what do you mean the 1.3 turbo isnt a turbo? lol and mahjik what do you think i should do with it? Seeing as tho i cant drive turbo charged cars.. Oh and 2turbos what do you mean by "grandfather the cars"? yeah where im living now its kind of no fun at all with these new laws that are in place.



If I recall correctly, the laws in your area are based on age and the power to weight ratio of the cars (something about eventually getting an "Unrestricted/Unlimited/Open License"). If that's correct, wait until you are able to drive a car of that power. There is no sense in bastardizing the car just to fit it under the law so you can have "the look". The law is there for a reason.



Wait until you have the proper license, then look to get the car.

NRTI RX 10-05-2007 11:55 PM

well the laws arnt based on age or power to weight ratio they have just said, you cant drive turbocharged cars, supercharged, v8 or high powered v6. So i will have to wait another 4 years just to get an rx7 =[?

Mahjik 10-06-2007 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by NRTI RX' post='884709' date='Oct 5 2007, 11:55 PM
well the laws arnt based on age or power to weight ratio they have just said, you cant drive turbocharged cars, supercharged, v8 or high powered v6. So i will have to wait another 4 years just to get an rx7 =[?



Here's a post from someone in Victoria:




It doesn't go by piston or rotary... it goes by power to weight ratio... in our cases... we are only allowed to drive cars that have 125kw per ton... the FD is definitely over that! But their are new laws that is being introduced that state, those who have their license for the first year are not allowed to drive any form of turbo, v8, supercharged car... not that anyone actually obeys these laws... but yeah.


So you must fall into the later category. Either way, get a car which follows the laws.

2turbos 10-06-2007 12:21 PM

Grandfathering means the older cars are still legal to own under the new laws. I did not know how the law works there.

I'm to understand there is a restriction in your operating licence for new drivers to limit them to lower powered cars the first

four years?

93RX7R1 10-06-2007 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by NRTI RX' post='884509' date='Oct 5 2007, 07:20 AM
beacuse the new laws in australia - victoria, you cant drive turbo, v8's or high powered V6's.. so i was thinking of NA tuning the engine or finding some rotor engine that is NA?





What a gay law - LOL Time to be moving!!!!

NRTI RX 10-06-2007 10:21 PM

the power to weight ratio law was introduced in 1995, they've changed the power to weight ratio law to no V8, high powered v6, supercharge or turbocharged beacuse of police officers having to work out how much power per ton rah rah anyway it was in an article written by vicroads. 2turbos you know the old f150's - f350 was the last i think anyway the older models of them have something around 60kw and beacuse its got a V8 engine you cant drive them under the new laws. Only beacuse it says V8 but there are v6's here that have 190kw stock and your aloud to drive them. The whole system is stupid beacuse they havent exactly looked into the cars their authorising to drive, their just taking random guesses on their horsepower beacuse of the size of the engine.


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