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agrabau 11-14-2005 12:35 PM

Hi again guys. We got the returned engine running after being sent back with a cracked water jacket. The motor ran nicely once delivered to our customer for about a week.



He had parked the car on a cold night recently, went to start it in the morning and nothing. The car was towed to us after which we found the following.



Compression is "good" we checked it using the same method one would with a piston engine which might not be the right way but the compression is matching at 120 psi.



Fuel pump runs



We have spark on 4 plugs



Now, what we've found is that the car is blowing the gauge cluster fuse and the AC fuse (under the hood) This could be unrelated but I wanded to include it just in case.



My hypothesis is that somehow the spark plugs are getting blown out by fuel. Once removed, the plugs are soaked. We had the car bump and sputter a bit after removing the plugs and cleaning/drying them but the car still wouldn't start.



Do we have some unregulated fuel pressure situation here? Thoughts?



Thanks,



Alex Grabau

rfreeman27 11-14-2005 05:10 PM

get new plugs.



Stock ECU?

rotaryinspired 11-15-2005 04:16 AM

After you get new plugs make sure you have new plug wires as well. Not the cheap ones. I bought a FC that didn't run for $100. I took new plugs and wires to the guys house and drove it home. Should have seen the look on his face.

agrabau 11-15-2005 08:37 AM

The plugs are new, probably 6 hours of run time on them.




Originally Posted by rotaryinspired' post='778462' date='Nov 15 2005, 02:16 AM

After you get new plugs make sure you have new plug wires as well. Not the cheap ones. I bought a FC that didn't run for $100. I took new plugs and wires to the guys house and drove it home. Should have seen the look on his face.


jspecracer7 11-15-2005 08:41 AM

sometimes even new plugs (6 hrs old) go bad quickly. I had a cheap set do that to me.

FikseRxSeven 11-15-2005 10:15 AM

i thought our cars are limitted to only a few types of plugs, which ones are cheap?

agrabau 11-15-2005 10:35 AM

Can someone second this motion? I cleaned the plugs thoroughly and we have verified spark. The intensity of the spark is debateable but we have spark, the plugs are working.

rfreeman27 11-15-2005 01:23 PM

Once plugs get wet, they dont like to come back to life.



If you even come close to flooding the race plugs i run, they are toast. No amount of cleaning can save them.



Get some new plugs, It's a cheap way to elminiate a factor.



the thing is, if you have fuel, spark, and compression it will start.



Mabye try a pull start, sometimes getting the motor spinning fast will break a loose seal free.



did you remove the shrader valve from the compression checker?

rotaryinspired 11-15-2005 03:16 PM

The key was the plug wires. You can have new plugs bad wires and no start. Once a new motor is flooded it can get very hard to start until its broken in. Plus plugs that have been repeated used trying to start a flooded engine will often no longer work to start a new motor, but will be useable later down the road. Thats because the seals haven't set in yet and need a little more help w/ spark.



I'll say change the plug wires if they are not new. Most times they are the factory originals.

agrabau 11-16-2005 07:20 PM

You guys are truly awesome. The plugs were replaced this afternoon and the wires as well. The car started right up and smoked for a few minutes. A pungent fuel smoke filled the shop but we were happy. I'm going to stick around here because I'm learning a lot.



PS- you guys are masochists.


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