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IWINULUZ 06-10-2004 05:09 PM

its better then feed 650 dollar bb throttle body

Fd3BOOST 06-10-2004 07:53 PM

This is something anyone with a die grinder, a carbide burr, a steady hand and some patience could do in a couple of hours. Come to think of it I already did that to mine last winter. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png I don't think it is a bad product but it is one that the average person could easily do themselves. Now making those beautiful bumpers of yours on the other hand is a talent that I can appreciate. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blush.png

rotaryextreme 06-10-2004 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Jun 10 2004, 04:53 PM
This is something anyone with a die grinder, a carbide burr, a steady hand and some patience could do in a couple of hours. I don't think it is a bad product but it is one that the average person could easily do themselves. Now making those beautiful bumpers of yours on the other hand is a talent that I can appreciate. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blush.png

If you use a die grinder, it's not going to work because you can't grind that precisely. You also need to make larger throttle plates and the edges are not just flat, they have to be at an angle. If you take off your throttle body, the plates sit at an angle. If you make them flat, they will not seal properly and open at the proper angle.



If the throttle plates and the throttle body do not seal properly, you will have idle problem.



Chuck Huang

TheCamel 06-10-2004 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Jun 10 2004, 08:53 PM
This is something anyone with a die grinder, a carbide burr, a steady hand and some patience could do in a couple of hours. Come to think of it I already did that to mine last winter. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png I don't think it is a bad product but it is one that the average person could easily do themselves. Now making those beautiful bumpers of yours on the other hand is a talent that I can appreciate. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blush.png

You might want to look at that picture real close again Dave, the entire butterfly has been swapped out, it is now a single instead of a dual. You can do the one at the top without much problem with a die grinder, but if you can make the bottom one with a die grinder I will buy your beers at rotorfest.

Fd3BOOST 06-10-2004 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by TheCamel' date='Jun 10 2004, 05:11 PM
You might want to look at that picture real close again Dave, the entire butterfly has been swapped out, it is now a single instead of a dual. You can do the one at the top without much problem with a die grinder, but if you can make the bottom one with a die grinder I will buy your beers at rotorfest.

I didn't notice the butter fly. Yea I can see where that should be machined then. Of coarse technically some block sanding and a really steady hand with alot of skill and it could still be hand done. But If the price was good then it would make more sense to just buy your Chuck.

jspecracer7 06-10-2004 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by rotaryextreme' date='Jun 11 2004, 03:37 AM
Yeah, I can have it done on your 20B throttle body. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



Chuck

Will it be appx. the same price?

rotaryextreme 06-10-2004 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Jun 10 2004, 06:31 PM
I didn't notice the butter fly. Yea I can see where that should be machined then. Of coarse technically some block sanding and a really steady hand with alot of skill and it could still be hand done. But If the price was good then it would make more sense to just buy your Chuck.

I guess everything is possible but I rather have it CNC machined then trusting my steady hand. I simply can't sell something that's grinded by hand when precision is a must. I don't have a CNC machine shop so I have to out-source on this mod. The CNC machine shop did a lot of work on this mod. They made the CAD program to machine the throttle body and also the throttle plate. They made a fixture so they can clamp down the throttle body onto the CNC machine. $400 is not cheap but there is a lot of work involved behind this.



If you can do it yourself, it's the best. Everyone likes to save money. Me too. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



Chuck Huang

rotaryextreme 06-10-2004 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by jspecracer7' date='Jun 10 2004, 06:38 PM
Will it be appx. the same price?

Yeah, it will be the same price but hopefully you can send me a few because the CNC machine shop does charge me for initial measuring and CAD programming. But your car is bad ass so I don't mind making no money off you. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



Chuck Huang

Fd3BOOST 06-10-2004 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by rotaryextreme' date='Jun 10 2004, 06:59 PM
I guess everything is possible but I rather have it CNC machined then trusting my steady hand. I simply can't sell something that's grinded by hand when precision is a must. I don't have a CNC machine shop so I have to out-source on this mod. The CNC machine shop did a lot of work on this mod. They made the CAD program to machine the throttle body and also the throttle plate. They made a fixture so they can clamp down the throttle body onto the CNC machine. $400 is not cheap but there is a lot of work involved behind this.



If you can do it yourself, it's the best. Everyone likes to save money. Me too. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



Chuck Huang

Chuck your product is uber nice. I was just being a smartass.

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/cool.png

rotaryextreme 06-10-2004 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Jun 10 2004, 08:20 PM
Chuck your product is uber nice. I was just being a smartass.

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/cool.png

There was nothing against you or any hard feeling at all. I am just trying to provide as much info as possible before someone starts to grind out their TB and then ended up needing a replacement. lol. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



On the contrary, you can do the upper manifold mod yourself if you have proper tools. It does not have to be as precise as the TB mod.



Chuck


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