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DirtyJ19 01-29-2003 12:55 PM

i'm currently looking at 3 cars the 93+ 7's two 95 3kgt vr-4's and a 94 supra tt.

i love the sound and performance of the 7 but i will be using this as a daily driven car then buy summer having it completely done up exterior and engine and maybe go single but i am wondering if there safe as a daily driver and reliable to start and keep running. because currently all my other cars are sold or have been totaled. so would this be a good car for me as a daily driven 450hp vehicle.

thanks,

Jon

Sinful7 01-29-2003 01:07 PM

The Rx7 can be a reliable daily driver, if tuned properly (which isn't difficult).. 450 HP is a LOT for an RX7.. or any car for that matter.. but in the 7, 450hp is a TON. regardless, it can be done.



If you have a fast internet connection, read this scanned article:

http://www.iluvmyrx7.com/3rdgen/articles/m...-0793/index.htm

DirtyJ19 01-29-2003 02:11 PM

ok what i'am basically looking to do is make it a 10 to 11 sec daily driver but i've been worried about the other high performance japanese cars around were me and some friends cruise which are supras some single turbo and 300z's and vr-4's and alot of rustangs. any ideas of the hp or rwhp i will need to acomplish this and what kind of money i will be needing. and thanks for the speedy response

Sinful7 01-29-2003 02:20 PM

Talk to vosko about that one.. he's had extensive experience with his 400+ hp FD on the street.



Oh, and you're easily looking at $10,000 to push a lot of HP. There are many upgrades besides a turbo that can be required to make 400+ hp. You'll absolutely need a turbo, FMIC, full exhaust, fuel computer, fuel pump, intake, injectors, and all the stuff that supplements that. Additionally, you should be planning on spending the cash on a big streetport, and motor rebuilds. If your tuner is good, they can get it right, the first time.. if they're not good, or you tune yourself, be ready to build a motor a few times...

DirtyJ19 01-29-2003 02:52 PM

ok i'm in ohio so i have no clue if there are any tuners here, that was another factor on the 7 i know nothing about these motors. but i will talk to vosko about it.

Dumbrotorkid 01-29-2003 06:34 PM

where in ohio are u????

teknics 01-29-2003 09:33 PM

if you want some advice to save money, dont buya supra...overpriced bastages. very nice car though.



anyway if you wanna aim for 450+rwhp on a 7 here's main tips (my goal as well)

1. 3rd gen with blown motor ~5k-6k

2. Send Motor and Stock Turbos to BNR for engine rebuild/porting and Stage 3 Turbo rebuilds ~$5k-6k (depends on condition)

3. Power FC or other computer w/ commander and datalogit ~ $2k

4. Reliability mods (AST, new rad, bigger/better intercooler, etc etc) ~2k (random guess)

5. New Fuel Injectors and Fuel Pump ~$???

6. Couple other thing i've forgotten so we'll just tack on another ~2k for the hell of it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



that's ~$18k-20k (guessed and added random prices for fuel inj. and pump)



Bryan at BNR said with his engine and turbos you should hover around 450rwhp on a daily drivable car (SPOAutos is running ~450hp daily on same setup without clipped turbine wheels)



and thats still cheaper then buying a Supra TT without even the BPU shiznazz.



kevin.

DirtyJ19 01-29-2003 10:29 PM

i'm in xenia,



ok it might help you guys help me if i told you how much i was gonna spend 14,000 to blow right now and another 4-5,000 in about 5 months

so what do you think i should do. because i'm also completely vehicle less right now which sucks. and i have no clue how long it would take them to rebuild and what not.

and another ? what kinda times would 450hp get me on the track and what are the top speeds of the 7 i know there a 5speed so stock would it be about 130-140mph or more than that

r_xplicit 01-29-2003 10:45 PM

get the rx7. truly a beautiful car, and you will fully reape the benefits of it if you can work on it yourself and love it.



everyone has their opinions, but the 3kgt vr-4 should not even be in the picture. as many other rx7 owners might hate to admit, the supra might be a better contender for the daily driver, but who cares? i luv my rx7...



we just relish in our issues regarding the reliability of the rotary, when really, there are just as many issues with the supras, we are just not on their boards all of the time...





louis

rx7machine 01-29-2003 10:50 PM


i'm in xenia,



ok it might help you guys help me if i told you how much i was gonna spend 14,000 to blow right now and another 4-5,000 in about 5 months

so what do you think i should do. because i'm also completely vehicle less right now which sucks. and i have no clue how long it would take them to rebuild and what not.

and another ? what kinda times would 450hp get me on the track and what are the top speeds of the 7 i know there a 5speed so stock would it be about 130-140mph or more than that
I hit 140 in my stock 7. And stopped.. so there's prob. a little more room to go.. 450hp RX-7.. prob. gonna take some work.. not trying to say don't get one.. but if don't have a true passion for them.. you'd be better off with a 300Z. At least that's my opinion.

Joe Flo 01-30-2003 11:04 AM

Not trying to bash the 7 but if this is going to be your daily driver and you want that much speed get a 300zx tt. Their are alot of really fast ones where I live that are all daily driven. Parts are cheaper and incase you don't know too much about engines it has a V6. Easy enough. But please god dont waste money on a Vr-4!!

teknics 01-30-2003 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by DirtyJ19' date='Jan 29 2003, 11:29 PM
i'm in xenia,



ok it might help you guys help me if i told you how much i was gonna spend 14,000 to blow right now and another 4-5,000 in about 5 months

so what do you think i should do. because i'm also completely vehicle less right now which sucks. and i have no clue how long it would take them to rebuild and what not.

and another ? what kinda times would 450hp get me on the track and what are the top speeds of the 7 i know there a 5speed so stock would it be about 130-140mph or more than that

you can buy a good condition one for anywhere from $11k-$20+k (it varies mainly by the sellers choice...no real set standards)



i was suggesting the blown engine one so you can send it to get rebuilt and ported and probably not worry about it again for a while.



If you by a fully functional one it's def. gonna cost a lot more to get it up to 450hp because youll pay more for the car.



with 450hp at the wheels in a ~2800lb car (which you can make even lighter if you want) you're looking at low 11's high 10's probably, my best guesstimate, along with 120+mph trap speeds, it all depends on if you know how to drive such a car.



Oh and also for a 450hp car (any car) plan on buying a new race-spec clutch and probably set aside some loot for a new trans, and probably funds to get a beefier lsd diff.



kevin.

wannabe-rotary 01-30-2003 03:30 PM

Dirty, looks like you and I have the same goals in mind for the '7. I am doing what teknic's is suggesting to you, get a 7 with a blown motor. (i am trying to find one's who's owner blew the apex seals or just toasted the damn thing) because I know ill have to yank the motor and build it up correctly regardless, id rather not pay more for a 7 that works only to yank the motor but have paid extra $$$ ahead of time, id rather save the money on a blown motor 7 and rebuild it from there. Hey teknic's whats BNR's website?

DirtyJ19 01-30-2003 08:46 PM

damnit damnit damnit, i want a 7 but my true worries are getting one and either it blows or i'm stuck somewere with it not starting back up.

i know how to work on 4 banger v-6 and v-8's but i know **** on rotary and i doubt there are any good tuners in ohio. i just have kinda shitty luck but i have money to sorda blow with the age factor. and ican honestly say i have never seen a sexy 300zx tt they look kinda ugly. but i dont think i have ever seen the bodykits. and i absolutely dont want to go back to force inducted civics,eclipses and integras everyone has them and most people have them but no mods just exhaust tip and big aluminum wing and stickers out the azz. uh man i just dont know what to do.

teknics 01-30-2003 09:49 PM

wannabe-rotary: BNR Supercars



Don't just order it e-mail Bryan (the owner) and talk to him about exactly what your goals are, he can hook you up with the right stuff, I talked with him for a bunch of days in a row before i finally knew what i was gonna do, how big i'd go etc etc.



kevin.

Dumbrotorkid 01-30-2003 11:44 PM

dont buy the vr4...waste of money....approx how much are you lookin to spend on a 7?


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