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nopistons69 11-10-2003 01:35 AM

Someone told me it could be done by removing the Catalyic Converter and replacing it with a straight pipe, is there any other ways?



Thanks

spiney360 11-10-2003 02:21 AM

i am unaware on how to direct this person to the preaviosly answerd question he has just asked, so would someone please do so.

thanks.

turbovr6 11-10-2003 06:16 AM

POOR TUNING!

nopistons69 11-10-2003 12:09 PM

I'm talking about shooting flames out of the Catback... surely someone has seen that before https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

mazdadrifter 11-10-2003 12:23 PM

just don't try to do it by sitting still and reving the piss out of your car. It's terrible on the motor.



any time your exhaust is hot enough and you are tuned rich when you let off the gas the next couple power strokes will be super rich and the hot exhaust internals will ignite the mixture when it recieves oxygen again (out the tailpipe)



If that is a concern when tuning then...... wwoooooooooosssssssssaaaaaaaaaa................... ..............................

............woooooooossssssssssaaaaaaaaaaaaaa



K i feel better....



it would not be smart to force yoru car to do that

93 R1 11-10-2003 12:25 PM

You need an aftermarket EMS, and a midpipe.

rfreeman27 11-10-2003 12:27 PM

ditching emissions crap will allow you to shoot flames.



The harder you try to shoot flames, the less they will happen.



Do you have aftermarket engine management? If you do you can change a few settings to allow you to shoot flames, but i'm not going to waste my time if you don't.

nopistons69 11-10-2003 12:51 PM

PFC and that's about it... what emission required things do you need exactly to get rid of...

Srce 11-10-2003 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by nopistons69' date='Nov 10 2003, 01:51 PM
PFC and that's about it... what emission required things do you need exactly to get rid of...

Tube a bit rich, get a DP, MP, and cat-back. BOOM

93 R1 11-10-2003 01:25 PM

you need an open exhaust

nopistons69 11-10-2003 01:26 PM

"Tube a bit rich" .... sorry I'm new, elaborate https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

i.didnt.do.it 11-10-2003 01:33 PM

Tune a bit rich...

JaySpec7 11-10-2003 02:08 PM

I don't understand how some of you can do this...



I have a catback, resonated md and dp and i get these little flames.. like a torch.. nothing like i've seen on others that just blow out fire... I even tuned my PFC deceleration points up and I actually blew out nothing...



Am I missing injectors since I'm running stock 550s and 850s??

andynogo 11-10-2003 06:50 PM

Yeah, you're missing one injector AND a spark plug.



Put an injector into the exhaust near the rear (I am not recommending you do this by the way...). Give it a fuel supply and a switched power supply. Then insert a spark plug into the exhaust after the injector. Hook that plug up to a coil and a switched power supply (if you're clever you could make a combined firing box).



Press the button and you could have all sorts of interesting things coming out of your exhaust.



Do a google search and concentrate on hot rod sites https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



This is very dodgy but if you really want flames and don't uderstand what tuning rich is...but then you won't understand a word I've just said either... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png

FikseRxSeven 11-10-2003 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by andynogo' date='Nov 10 2003, 07:50 PM
Yeah, you're missing one injector AND a spark plug.



Put an injector into the exhaust near the rear (I am not recommending you do this by the way...). Give it a fuel supply and a switched power supply. Then insert a spark plug into the exhaust after the injector. Hook that plug up to a coil and a switched power supply (if you're clever you could make a combined firing box).



Press the button and you could have all sorts of interesting things coming out of your exhaust.



Do a google search and concentrate on hot rod sites https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



This is very dodgy but if you really want flames and don't uderstand what tuning rich is...but then you won't understand a word I've just said either... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png

you dont need the extra injector if you're goin that route....... just hte coil and spark plug.... rotaries run rich enough

andynogo 11-10-2003 07:08 PM

Yeah, but with the extra injector, you could really roast that MF that's tailgating you!

FikseRxSeven 11-10-2003 07:11 PM

and cause your bumper to melt and go into flames... lol

apexkw 11-10-2003 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by JaySpec7' date='Nov 10 2003, 03:08 PM
I don't understand how some of you can do this...



I have a catback, resonated md and dp and i get these little flames.. like a torch.. nothing like i've seen on others that just blow out fire... I even tuned my PFC deceleration points up and I actually blew out nothing...



Am I missing injectors since I'm running stock 550s and 850s??

man i used to shoot flames all the time with the resonated midpipe. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/cool.png i have 550/1300 injectors and a single turbo kit though. i switched to a high flow midpipe and it still shoots monster flames!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif i guess you arent "wasting" enough fuel like me https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif but yeah i use the pfc fuel cut method when i want to go into what i like to call...flamethrower mode"

Srce 11-10-2003 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by nopistons69' date='Nov 10 2003, 02:26 PM
"Tube a bit rich" .... sorry I'm new, elaborate https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Sorry on my behalf, I meant to say TUNE a bit rich. LOL





Allow the ECU to flow more fuel to the engine then is needed, then get an open exhaust (no cats) and then you'll shoot flames.

gdnimr0d 11-10-2003 10:37 PM

just get aftermarket mid pipe, down pipe, big ass straight pipes and remove emissions hardware...and one nice apexi n1 exhaust system....except i live in FL where there are no emission requirments...good luck to you all that live in required emission testing states

ichibandan 11-18-2003 09:25 PM

An alternative is to have the engine cut spark at the rev-limit instead of cutting fuel. This makes unburnt mixture go out the exhaust which should be enough to shoot flames but is better than leaning out inside the engine. Either way is bad though, leaning out the engine is obvioiusly bad, but flames out the exhaust will seriously cut down the lifespan of your hard-earned exhaust system! Shooting flames actually should be easier with the rear cat on. Basically if you still have the rear cat on your car, you see the little inlet tube? That does the same thing as using bellows to make the fire bigger in a fireplace, except it's doing that in your cat to burn up any unused fuel. Cats on carbied cars look the same too. When an _extra_ rich mixture comes down the pipe, your rear cat will ignite it, sending flames out the back but not without doing a little damage to your rear cat and catback system first! Extra rich mixture isn't too good for the front cat either. If you do this on cars with OBD-II (which doesn't include FDs I think), then you also have a second oxygen sensor in the flame's path so you can say goodbye to that as well.



Short answer: Yes, you can with cats on, should actually be easier with at least the rear one since it will stoke the fire. No it's not recommended unless you don't mind blowing $$$ on new cats and catbacks over and over.

Fd3BOOST 11-18-2003 09:29 PM

1 part ported motor, 3 parts open exhaust = BIG ASS FLAMES! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif



My car shoots big ass flames.

Just floor it and bounce it off the rev limiter, gets the big flame jonx everytime https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

SleepR1 11-19-2003 04:22 PM

What type of tips allow flames to shoot? I have a full open exhaust (dp/mp/rb-dt-cb) with Power FC set to 8000 rpm for fuel cut (basically will NOT cut fuel). I still don't know if I'm shooting flames; I'm afraid the Racing Beat dual tip won't allow such quality flammage?

Srce 11-19-2003 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by SleepR1' date='Nov 19 2003, 05:22 PM
What type of tips allow flames to shoot? I have a full open exhaust (dp/mp/rb-dt-cb) with Power FC set to 8000 rpm for fuel cut (basically will NOT cut fuel). I still don't know if I'm shooting flames; I'm afraid the Racing Beat dual tip won't allow such quality flammage?

I've seen it done out of Dual Tip Apexi N1's. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif

Sinful7 11-19-2003 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by SleepR1' date='Nov 19 2003, 04:22 PM
What type of tips allow flames to shoot? I have a full open exhaust (dp/mp/rb-dt-cb) with Power FC set to 8000 rpm for fuel cut (basically will NOT cut fuel). I still don't know if I'm shooting flames; I'm afraid the Racing Beat dual tip won't allow such quality flammage?

I wonder if the internal baffles in the RB dual choke out some of the flameage.

l8t apex 11-19-2003 04:36 PM

Yeh Fast Freddy did it two months ago to his brother's 2Nd gen.

Interupted spark signal.....blows unburnt fuel into pipe, there he has a spark plug welded and grounded at the end which lights it up.



Its ******* MAD I tell you!



At night at the lights you can scare the **** out of people with the 5 ft flame not

to mention the loud boom. I piss on myself every time!

People dump drinks and ****. Then they look at you crazy.



Hot dogs, smores......anyone? Meet at Main St. and 5th.



HA,ha,ha,,aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,ha,ha,ha



he may have picks of the install

Fd3BOOST 11-19-2003 05:22 PM

Yup, I've done it out of Ni dual and PFS catbacks.

9BASE3 11-19-2003 05:54 PM

Flames = attention.



I'll need NO more of that thanks! lol



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

l8t apex 11-20-2003 07:57 AM

9BASE3 Posted on Nov 19 2003, 03:54 PM



Flames = attention.



I'll need NO more of that thanks! lol



yep

-=RX-7 KID=- 11-20-2003 09:11 PM

I have a single turbo with a PFC tuned rich and all i can say is ask freeman about my flamage. Oh i have no emssions bullshit and i have a stright exhaust with a greddy muffler. big 4.5 inch tip. Lights em up good. Ask about the mustang. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683517.gif

rfreeman27 11-20-2003 09:12 PM

He shot a fireball at some mustang on the highway...



It was HUGE....just fire billowing out of the pipe...



Funny ****...

jspecracer7 11-21-2003 03:32 AM

You don't need to tune rich to blow flames. Turn your decel air rpms really high...like 12000 rpms. I can get some NICE flames with this technique.


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