Someone told me it could be done by removing the Catalyic Converter and replacing it with a straight pipe, is there any other ways?
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i am unaware on how to direct this person to the preaviosly answerd question he has just asked, so would someone please do so.
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POOR TUNING!
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I'm talking about shooting flames out of the Catback... surely someone has seen that before https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png
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just don't try to do it by sitting still and reving the piss out of your car. It's terrible on the motor.
any time your exhaust is hot enough and you are tuned rich when you let off the gas the next couple power strokes will be super rich and the hot exhaust internals will ignite the mixture when it recieves oxygen again (out the tailpipe) If that is a concern when tuning then...... wwoooooooooosssssssssaaaaaaaaaa................... .............................. ............woooooooossssssssssaaaaaaaaaaaaaa K i feel better.... it would not be smart to force yoru car to do that |
You need an aftermarket EMS, and a midpipe.
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ditching emissions crap will allow you to shoot flames.
The harder you try to shoot flames, the less they will happen. Do you have aftermarket engine management? If you do you can change a few settings to allow you to shoot flames, but i'm not going to waste my time if you don't. |
PFC and that's about it... what emission required things do you need exactly to get rid of...
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Originally Posted by nopistons69' date='Nov 10 2003, 01:51 PM
PFC and that's about it... what emission required things do you need exactly to get rid of...
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you need an open exhaust
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"Tube a bit rich" .... sorry I'm new, elaborate https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png
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Tune a bit rich...
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I don't understand how some of you can do this...
I have a catback, resonated md and dp and i get these little flames.. like a torch.. nothing like i've seen on others that just blow out fire... I even tuned my PFC deceleration points up and I actually blew out nothing... Am I missing injectors since I'm running stock 550s and 850s?? |
Yeah, you're missing one injector AND a spark plug.
Put an injector into the exhaust near the rear (I am not recommending you do this by the way...). Give it a fuel supply and a switched power supply. Then insert a spark plug into the exhaust after the injector. Hook that plug up to a coil and a switched power supply (if you're clever you could make a combined firing box). Press the button and you could have all sorts of interesting things coming out of your exhaust. Do a google search and concentrate on hot rod sites https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png This is very dodgy but if you really want flames and don't uderstand what tuning rich is...but then you won't understand a word I've just said either... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png |
Originally Posted by andynogo' date='Nov 10 2003, 07:50 PM
Yeah, you're missing one injector AND a spark plug.
Put an injector into the exhaust near the rear (I am not recommending you do this by the way...). Give it a fuel supply and a switched power supply. Then insert a spark plug into the exhaust after the injector. Hook that plug up to a coil and a switched power supply (if you're clever you could make a combined firing box). Press the button and you could have all sorts of interesting things coming out of your exhaust. Do a google search and concentrate on hot rod sites https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png This is very dodgy but if you really want flames and don't uderstand what tuning rich is...but then you won't understand a word I've just said either... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png |
Yeah, but with the extra injector, you could really roast that MF that's tailgating you!
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and cause your bumper to melt and go into flames... lol
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Originally Posted by JaySpec7' date='Nov 10 2003, 03:08 PM
I don't understand how some of you can do this...
I have a catback, resonated md and dp and i get these little flames.. like a torch.. nothing like i've seen on others that just blow out fire... I even tuned my PFC deceleration points up and I actually blew out nothing... Am I missing injectors since I'm running stock 550s and 850s?? |
Originally Posted by nopistons69' date='Nov 10 2003, 02:26 PM
"Tube a bit rich" .... sorry I'm new, elaborate https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png
Allow the ECU to flow more fuel to the engine then is needed, then get an open exhaust (no cats) and then you'll shoot flames. |
just get aftermarket mid pipe, down pipe, big ass straight pipes and remove emissions hardware...and one nice apexi n1 exhaust system....except i live in FL where there are no emission requirments...good luck to you all that live in required emission testing states
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An alternative is to have the engine cut spark at the rev-limit instead of cutting fuel. This makes unburnt mixture go out the exhaust which should be enough to shoot flames but is better than leaning out inside the engine. Either way is bad though, leaning out the engine is obvioiusly bad, but flames out the exhaust will seriously cut down the lifespan of your hard-earned exhaust system! Shooting flames actually should be easier with the rear cat on. Basically if you still have the rear cat on your car, you see the little inlet tube? That does the same thing as using bellows to make the fire bigger in a fireplace, except it's doing that in your cat to burn up any unused fuel. Cats on carbied cars look the same too. When an _extra_ rich mixture comes down the pipe, your rear cat will ignite it, sending flames out the back but not without doing a little damage to your rear cat and catback system first! Extra rich mixture isn't too good for the front cat either. If you do this on cars with OBD-II (which doesn't include FDs I think), then you also have a second oxygen sensor in the flame's path so you can say goodbye to that as well.
Short answer: Yes, you can with cats on, should actually be easier with at least the rear one since it will stoke the fire. No it's not recommended unless you don't mind blowing $$$ on new cats and catbacks over and over. |
1 part ported motor, 3 parts open exhaust = BIG ASS FLAMES! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif
My car shoots big ass flames. Just floor it and bounce it off the rev limiter, gets the big flame jonx everytime https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png |
What type of tips allow flames to shoot? I have a full open exhaust (dp/mp/rb-dt-cb) with Power FC set to 8000 rpm for fuel cut (basically will NOT cut fuel). I still don't know if I'm shooting flames; I'm afraid the Racing Beat dual tip won't allow such quality flammage?
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Originally Posted by SleepR1' date='Nov 19 2003, 05:22 PM
What type of tips allow flames to shoot? I have a full open exhaust (dp/mp/rb-dt-cb) with Power FC set to 8000 rpm for fuel cut (basically will NOT cut fuel). I still don't know if I'm shooting flames; I'm afraid the Racing Beat dual tip won't allow such quality flammage?
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Originally Posted by SleepR1' date='Nov 19 2003, 04:22 PM
What type of tips allow flames to shoot? I have a full open exhaust (dp/mp/rb-dt-cb) with Power FC set to 8000 rpm for fuel cut (basically will NOT cut fuel). I still don't know if I'm shooting flames; I'm afraid the Racing Beat dual tip won't allow such quality flammage?
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Yeh Fast Freddy did it two months ago to his brother's 2Nd gen.
Interupted spark signal.....blows unburnt fuel into pipe, there he has a spark plug welded and grounded at the end which lights it up. Its ******* MAD I tell you! At night at the lights you can scare the **** out of people with the 5 ft flame not to mention the loud boom. I piss on myself every time! People dump drinks and ****. Then they look at you crazy. Hot dogs, smores......anyone? Meet at Main St. and 5th. HA,ha,ha,,aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,ha,ha,ha he may have picks of the install |
Yup, I've done it out of Ni dual and PFS catbacks.
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Flames = attention.
I'll need NO more of that thanks! lol https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png |
9BASE3 Posted on Nov 19 2003, 03:54 PM
Flames = attention. I'll need NO more of that thanks! lol yep |
I have a single turbo with a PFC tuned rich and all i can say is ask freeman about my flamage. Oh i have no emssions bullshit and i have a stright exhaust with a greddy muffler. big 4.5 inch tip. Lights em up good. Ask about the mustang. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683517.gif
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He shot a fireball at some mustang on the highway...
It was HUGE....just fire billowing out of the pipe... Funny ****... |
You don't need to tune rich to blow flames. Turn your decel air rpms really high...like 12000 rpms. I can get some NICE flames with this technique.
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