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jester 06-17-2004 07:02 AM

When I removed my oil pan I found several pieces of metal. Most of them where like those in the image. Does anyone have any idea what they are and where they might have come from?

83turbo 06-17-2004 07:04 AM

Those were your thrust bearings. Likely cause: http://www.mazdatrix.com/faq/pulley.htm

jester 06-17-2004 07:21 AM

I had the front cover and oil pan gaskets replaced about 1 year ago. About 8 months ago a compression test showed that the rear rotor was low. Then it died. Could this be a result of replacing the gaskets?

jspecracer7 06-17-2004 07:44 AM

Who changed out your front cover gasket?

jester 06-17-2004 07:55 AM

The Mazda dealership.

83turbo 06-17-2004 07:58 AM

Most likely the bearing dropped from its perch on the spacer when the gaskets were replaced. It's a major pain to work on stuff under the front cover with the engine installed in the car.

As for this ultimately causing compression loss on the rear rotor - it doesn't seem likely. How many miles are on it, and is it a turbo or NA?

jester 06-17-2004 08:02 AM

About 50,000 miles. Its a 13B in an FD. I was just curious if this was another reason to go back to the dealership and bitch about their incompetence again.

Robbomaz 06-17-2004 08:31 AM

Jester with no thrust left the end float will allow the rotor to touch the side plate. Often the corner seal gets smacked in and stays in, causing compression loss

If you are lucky the side plate will just have a 'hotspot' from the rubbing, at worst the plate will be gouged & need replacing. Nasty.

83turbo 06-17-2004 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Robbomaz' date='Jun 17 2004, 05:31 AM
Jester with no thrust left the end float will allow the rotor to touch the side plate. Often the corner seal gets smacked in and stays in, causing compression loss

If you are lucky the side plate will just have a 'hotspot' from the rubbing, at worst the plate will be gouged & need replacing. Nasty.

Interesting...I hadn't thought of that one.



Check out the oil pump too - it's been passing shrapnel.

DUB 06-17-2004 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by 83turbo' date='Jun 17 2004, 10:44 AM
Check out the oil pump too - it's been passing shrapnel.

pick up tube wouldn't let those pieces pass.



unless you're refering to something else https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

Shane.Trammell 06-17-2004 11:33 AM

the mazda guys prob put the dime in there too.











ok ok just kidding

Fd3BOOST 06-17-2004 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by DUB' date='Jun 17 2004, 08:20 AM
pick up tube wouldn't let those pieces pass.



unless you're refering to something else https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

Yup, its screened over.

83turbo 06-17-2004 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Jun 17 2004, 09:08 AM
Yup, its screened over.

There could still be little shavings and crumbs and stuff.

jester 06-17-2004 01:20 PM

There were shavings stuck to the screen. I guess some of the smaller pieces could have gotten through. Since it was small shavings that possibly made it through, should I replace the pump?

jspecracer7 06-17-2004 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by jester' date='Jun 17 2004, 09:55 PM
The Mazda dealership.

The mazda dealership huh?...lol...there's your problem.



I can guarantee you that you have bad bearings and possibly a bad e-shaft now, especially if you've found metal shavings in the pickup.

jester 06-17-2004 03:30 PM


The mazda dealership huh?...lol...there's your problem.


I know, I know. I learned my lesson. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png I've decided that either I'm going to get it running again or it will be furniture in my garage.

IGY 06-17-2004 05:47 PM

Completely and totally the mazda dealerships fault. I'm with Robbomaz on this, seen it more than once.

-=RX-7 KID=- 06-17-2004 07:56 PM

There should be a warning sticker at all mazda dealerships saying. We dont know **** about these engines if we work on them it's at your own risk!

Robbomaz 06-19-2004 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by -=RX-7 KID=-' date='Jun 18 2004, 08:56 AM
There should be a warning sticker at all mazda dealerships saying. We dont know **** about these engines if we work on them it's at your own risk!

Aint that the truth! Left to the specialists here in Oz too

83turbo 06-19-2004 08:36 AM


There were shavings stuck to the screen. I guess some of the smaller pieces could have gotten through. Since it was small shavings that

possibly made it through, should I replace the pump?


Disassemble the pump and look for gouges, cracking, etc. A little

scuffing is tolerable.

Any crud that went through the pump (thus making more shavings in the

process) will also go through the oil cooler(s) before getting to the

filter. The metering pump is fed unfiltered oil straight from the

main oil pump, so some cleaning is probably in order.

You will of course need new thrust bearings, thrust plate, and thrust

washer.



Completely true what they're saying about dealaerships. The local one

here actually had a guy who knew what he was doing but he left to work

elsewhere.


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