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Baldy 02-21-2006 01:21 PM

Before I swapped the clutch and flywheel, the car would idle only after it was fully warmed up, no big deal. Now I can't get it to idle at all. Drives fine otherwise, I just have to keep my foot on the gas.



I set the TPS using the checker lights (my multi-meter decided to stop working recently), and I can't seem to find any vacuum leaks. No emissions or OMP, so I just had to check the 3 lines, all the caps, and the intake pipes. I wouldn't think the intake manifolds would all of a sudden start leaking, last time they were removed I used new gaskets with "non permanent" gasket sealant, and torqued it all to spec (several thousand miles ago).



Auxiliary ports are zip-tied open, the 4 holes for the actuators are plugged with rtv sealant, this I did while installing the clutch. I visually can't see how any air could get in or out of those holes.



What else is there to check?

nismo convert 02-21-2006 04:50 PM

I can't remember if it helps with idling or not, but you had the tranny out, so I would try that ground wire that comes off there if it's not connected.

loudazzrx7 02-21-2006 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by nismo convert' post='803264' date='Feb 21 2006, 02:50 PM

I can't remember if it helps with idling or not, but you had the tranny out, so I would try that ground wire that comes off there if it's not connected.

Check your throttle cable behind the throttle body--

tancred 02-24-2006 08:06 PM

Adjust your idle screw you may think you wouldnt have to, but damn sometimes that little fucker moves and its the last thing you would check, crank that idle screw in far like til the bitch idles at 3k and then back down slowly, at the bare minimum it will eliminate the screw as being the culprit if it doesnt idle after you tighten it down some..

Baldy 02-27-2006 08:20 AM

Ground wire is connected. All sketchy-looking vacuum caps have been replaced. Throttle cable looks fine, operates smoothly, nothing out of place or getting snagged. Idle set screw is as high is it'll go, no difference.

Rob x-7 02-27-2006 08:23 AM

I would try to set the TPS by feel and not with the light method

Baldy 02-27-2006 08:24 AM

Do you mean adjust it while the car is running, and see if it changes?

Rob x-7 02-27-2006 08:47 AM

yes, adjust it slightly



I would also follow the FSM on how to make all the adjustments, I know there is a order you should be doing it all in, I dont have it in front of me right now to tell you but if you follow the way they tell you to make all the adjustments it works out well.

tancred 02-27-2006 10:02 AM

Not to question your skills, but is your TPS plugged in? I keep leaving mine off and it wont idle for more then a few seconds, its the second time ive taken off my IC to find my TPS unplugged and I just shake my head...I get so excited about trying out something new I forget to plug in my TPS every now and then..



Anyways, even with a bad TPS you should still be able to idle, the issue is elsewhere. Is your tach working? Bad coil?



Call me crazy, but I had this similar situation after I checked everything and it was my battery, so I replaced my terminals and took my battery to get checked and sure enough it was bad, once replaced fixed EVERYTHING...

tancred 02-27-2006 10:04 AM

If your battery has been sitting out or if its currently cold in your region it might screw your battery. But then again you wouldnt be able to crank it for too long without it slowing down if you werent holding a charge...hard to tell, but I took my battery and alternator into checker and made them test both, the battery turned out to be bad and when I went home I threw it in and been happy ever since...

Baldy 02-27-2006 10:17 AM

Brand new optima red top (it never really gets that cold here), and I recently re-soldered, re-crimped, and covered the cable-to-terminals connections. I never unplugged my TPS, but I'll make sure it's plugged in. Tach works fine, as far as I can tell. I don't know about a bad coil, but the car runs perfectly fine other than the idle issue.





I'll try it according to the FSM, and see how that works out.

Rob x-7 02-27-2006 10:18 AM

there is a trouble shooting section, follow what it says, make the adjustments in the order they tell you

tancred 02-27-2006 08:45 PM

Quite odd man, I wish you lived closer I would come lend a hand...

Seppuku 03-01-2006 03:23 PM

check vac line to map sensor?

nismo convert 03-01-2006 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by Seppuku' post='805186' date='Mar 1 2006, 04:23 PM

check vac line to map sensor?





Map sensor?





Is the AFM plugged in?

Baldy 03-02-2006 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='804640' date='Feb 27 2006, 09:23 AM

I would try to set the TPS by feel and not with the light method

I took a screwdriver with me the other day. Before leaving at lunch, before even starting up the car, I just turned the tps set screw a little, and the idle screw a little, and figured if that didn't work adjust it again when I got where I was going. I was just going to fiddle with it throughout the day.



But on the first try, after warming up, it idled fine! Yay for random adjustments!







nest up: rolling fenders. My new tires rub like a bitch.

Rob x-7 03-02-2006 05:47 PM

I have never used the lights method, I just adjust till it feels right



on my vert I have never had to touch anything, just seems like every other car I get I have to adjust to get them to run right.



People need to learn to leave these things alone if there are no problems!

tancred 03-02-2006 09:41 PM

WTF TPS adjustment screw are you talking about, my car is acting up, idle issues..

tancred 03-03-2006 06:34 PM

Bah, fixed my idle issues now I got a ticking problem hehe

xxcarpathia 04-15-2006 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by tancred' post='805663' date='Mar 3 2006, 07:34 PM

Bah, fixed my idle issues now I got a ticking problem hehe



Where did u find the cause of Idle problem???


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