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Baldy 12-29-2004 03:58 PM

I know they aren't high quality, but I really don't think a strut brace should be capable of handling extreme forces. Anyways, what I want to know is FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE USED THEM, what is your opinion?



examples:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...7944215398&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...7943900697&rd=1

fc3sboy1 12-29-2004 04:09 PM

screw the strut to strut bars, go wit the triangulated bar from mazdatrix , spend the extra cash and get the one with the toqure brace on it as well. i use it on my fc and noticed a big improvment in the cars turn in and genral cornering also with the brace for the motor helps keep motors still so no need to solid mounts or stiff urithain , just use the mazda comp hard rubber bushings and no vibration to ur wheel that way.

o ya last time i checked the mazdatrix bar was 325

mazdadrifter 12-29-2004 04:40 PM

i got one a long time ago when i first got my car. it fit, and seemed to work just fine. You can even adjust it for preload.



if you look at the mazdaspeed competition ones they are almost identicle to that one. I'll find a pic and post it.

mazdadrifter 12-29-2004 04:48 PM

here ya go 93 bucks. Not saying it's the same quality, but they sure do look alike.

Rob x-7 12-29-2004 04:55 PM

I have seen knockoff tri point bars as well, I actually have a original Racingbeat one sitting in my garage I never installed.

Jims5543 12-29-2004 05:14 PM

After then engine swap my Cusco would not fit so I dont have one anymore. In all honesty I have not noticed a change in the cars handling w/o it.

Rob x-7 12-29-2004 05:29 PM

they make me nervous, call me crazy but I feel if you have a accident on one side of the car you will be transferring some of the impact to the other side of the car possibly resulting in more damage

Cheers! 12-29-2004 06:49 PM

I have the racingbeat strut tower bar, the best bar you can buy. It is light, and strong.



I have to agree with Rob on that though. But if the car gets into any accident it won't come out very good and will probably get written off. I just bought the Corksport rear strut tower brace, and I must say it is as nice or nicer than the corksport rear brace.



I also ahve the cusco lower arm bar, and that thing is a peice of ****. The hole that the bolt goes through for the two mounting brackets are purposely sloted, oblongated, and oversized. So any shear force resisted by the bolt will cause the bolt to move laterally since the tension/clamp force will never be able to resist the lateral movement of the bar. I think cusco does it this way to try to compensate for each car being slightly different and preventing customers from bitching about why the bar doens't fit. THe proper way to overcome this should have been to make a properly clearenced class 3 hole, then make the bar slight shorter, and take up the inconsistency of cars with shim plates.

j9fd3s 12-29-2004 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Dec 29 2004, 03:28 PM
they make me nervous, call me crazy but I feel if you have a accident on one side of the car you will be transferring some of the impact to the other side of the car possibly resulting in more damage




seems like the cheapy bars just bend, but the rb triangle **** will tweak the hell out of the car

rx7man629 12-29-2004 08:07 PM

I have one it seems to work, i kinda got it for looks but i did notice a slight diff in handeling. But it touches the heat resistant stuff on the bottom of the hood when u close it.

Baldy 12-30-2004 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by fc3sboy1' date='Dec 29 2004, 05:09 PM
o ya last time i checked the mazdatrix bar was 325


That's why I was asking about the cheapy bar.




Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Dec 29 2004, 06:14 PM
After then engine swap my Cusco would not fit so I dont have one anymore. In all honesty I have not noticed a change in the cars handling w/o it.


I pm'd you awhile back about tips for getting started in auto-x, one of the things you said to do was get a strut bar. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>So what's the general consensus on results from the strut bars? Do most people see noticeable results, or are they another one of those non-functional-but-look-cool mods?</span>


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Dec 29 2004, 07:54 PM
seems like the cheapy bars just bend, but the rb triangle **** will tweak the hell out of the car


I've always wondered about that. Some have even speculated that the triangulated types would transfer impact to the cabin.




Originally Posted by rx7man629' date='Dec 29 2004, 09:06 PM
But it touches the heat resistant stuff on the bottom of the hood when u close it.


Baaahhh, I hate that stuff anyway.

crionics 12-30-2004 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Baldy' date='Dec 30 2004, 08:55 AM
That's why I was asking about the cheapy bar.

I pm'd you awhile back about tips for getting started in auto-x, one of the things you said to do was get a strut bar. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>So what's the general consensus on results from the strut bars? Do most people see noticeable results, or are they another one of those non-functional-but-look-cool mods?</span>



I've always wondered about that. Some have even speculated that the triangulated types would transfer impact to the cabin.

Baaahhh, I hate that stuff anyway.


I bought one...didn't expect a lot, but it was worth $15-20 if you want to take the cheap route. I think mine cost about $20 shipping included. It's probably better than nothing.

rx7man629 12-30-2004 09:29 AM

In my oppinion it does make the front end stiffer. When you put it on make sure its a little wide then, bolt it down to the struts by doing that it will put pressure on the struts and make the front end stiff. once its on you cant adjust the tension across the struts. polish that thing up and you will get the looks too.

Baldy 12-30-2004 09:58 AM

Thanks for all the info, guys. I always see "that's crap!" or "buy this!" speculation, so it's nice to have a simple resource of first-hand experiences.

adc0642 12-30-2004 10:19 AM

I put one on by n/a, fit fine, looked nice, can't say I noticed a difference in handling. but the car was already very stiff, with rb springs and swaybars, and agx's turned all the way up

Bender82gsl 12-30-2004 10:30 AM

hay that is some cheap **** im getting a shitload of them

Baldy 12-30-2004 10:51 AM

By the way, I had already purchased it before starting this thread. I'll let you know my reactions.

StockFC 12-30-2004 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Dec 29 2004, 02:55 PM
I have seen knockoff tri point bars as well, I actually have a original Racingbeat one sitting in my garage I never installed.




So, do you wanna sell that?

Rob x-7 12-30-2004 07:59 PM

im thinking it would elimintate some of the slight cowl shake that verts have, just havent gotten off my ass to put it in yet.



Ill put it in after the engine swap.

Jims5543 12-30-2004 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Baldy' date='Dec 30 2004, 10:58 AM
Thanks for all the info, guys. I always see "that's crap!" or "buy this!" speculation, so it's nice to have a simple resource of first-hand experiences.






I wouldnt say they are crap. All I am saying is I was bumed when I could not put mine back on and then delighted that I experianced no change in the cars handling.



But, over time, especially tracking the car a lot, the lack of the front strut brace will cause my chassis to flex. So to have one, in the long run will serve you well.



Just dont expect to feel a giant difference with or without it. I always thought it was a "must do" mod especially if your Autocrossing or tracking a car. I honestly cannot say I miss mine.



I will however be getting a custom one made in the future for my car. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

donhayes 12-30-2004 10:53 PM

I have a cusco front tower brace. It cost a lot but i know that it wont break and go through the hood. THat was my fear about buying a crappy cheap one. It does rub on the hood heat lining but putting one on is for perfomance and not looks alone. The front end is stiffer because hard turns do cause the chasie to flex. But that is just from my experience.

GreyGT-C 12-31-2004 12:30 AM

i borrowed an R1 brace from a freind and installed it on my grey fd.... took it for a spin and noticed a definate difference in it. It wasn't a huge difference, but i could tell it was there....enough so that i have one of both cars now.

jackboots 12-31-2004 03:02 PM

I'm thinking of getting this bar:

http://www.cpracing.ca/productimages/2gtri.jpg



only $150 from CP Racing.

FikseRxSeven 12-31-2004 04:16 PM

check our site sponsor cpracing.. they have 4 point strut bars

drunkin_idiot 01-01-2005 08:33 PM

Jackboots what bar is that?

Cheers&#33; 01-01-2005 09:56 PM

That is a cpracing strut tower bar. I would do some research about it before buying though.



also those cusco/ebay style bars. I sometimes questions their effectiveness since the bar will pivot on the bolt that are loaded in shear.

drunkin_idiot 01-02-2005 08:50 PM

Are the cp racing ones like not good or what?

drftk1d 01-03-2005 02:42 PM

if you use the ebay bar on a turbo with the stock intercooler, will it clear?


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