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RyoNishi 02-07-2008 03:24 PM

i have a gap between the header and right where it connets to the gasket or something. everything is good but it sounds like a rattling muscle car engine coming out of the exhuast. plz give me advice.

ColinRX7 02-08-2008 10:09 AM

I'm not sure what you mean, is the engine side flange of the header warped or something? If that's the case, get it planed and reinstall it, should axe the problem.

RyoNishi 02-08-2008 03:08 PM

i mean the end of the headers under the car that connets to the pipe systems of the exhuast. theres a gap somewhere between there. and how do i reinstall it.

1988RedT2 02-09-2008 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by RyoNishi' post='893954' date='Feb 8 2008, 05:08 PM
i mean the end of the headers under the car that connets to the pipe systems of the exhuast. theres a gap somewhere between there. and how do i reinstall it.





I assume you're talking about a flange-to-flange connection, probably 2.5" diameter. Gasket is probably a standard 2-bolt design such as this: [attachment=43927:exhgasket.jpg] Any auto parts store should carry it.



You need to undo 2 probably rusty bolts, remove the old gasket, insert the new gasket, and put in 2 new bolts and tighten the beejeebers out of it. You should be able to accomplish this with the exhaust still hanging under the car. If you don't have access to a lift, you'll have to safely jack and support the car to provide enough room to get under it. Lying on my back under a car working on a rusty exhaust is probably my most-hated car-related activity. If the bolts are too rusty to get off, don't waste time. Just break them or cut them. You really should replace them with new unless they are in unusually good shape.



Success (obviously) will depend on the exhaust being in reasonably good condition and properly supported.

Rob x-7 02-10-2008 09:25 PM

there is also exaust goo you can put there to help when you put a new gasket, if there is a large space then something is out of whack.

ColinRX7 02-10-2008 09:29 PM

I bent my RB collector flange from overtorquing those two bolts. Steel bends without much force.



Alot of assembly/disassembly can warp the flange if you put a bit of pressure on everytime, then you have to flatten it back out (manually grind or get it planed).



Couldn't use enough exhaust fudge on it to seal up, last time, so I ground it flat.

RyoNishi 02-11-2008 03:14 PM

one more question. the flange to flange was broke by going up a curb and i think its a little flat or something. do you still remove the gasket and replace it with a new one or get a new exhuast system?

1988RedT2 02-11-2008 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by RyoNishi' post='894179' date='Feb 11 2008, 05:14 PM
one more question. the flange to flange was broke by going up a curb and i think its a little flat or something. do you still remove the gasket and replace it with a new one or get a new exhuast system?



Ahhh.... now we get the truth!



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If you bent the metal up, you'll need to get it back in shape or no gasket is going to fix the leak. It really depends on how much its bent. Is the pipe bent, or just the flange?



If the exhaust is in good shape, you can surely salvage it. You might just get a shop to fix it for you, if it's going to need more than just a gasket.

Leetheslacker 02-11-2008 04:42 PM

i scrape my exhaust too much.



gaskets never last.



im about to pay someone to weld it together.

Rob x-7 02-11-2008 09:04 PM

we used to double up header gaskets that like to leak alot

RyoNishi 02-12-2008 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by 1988RedT2' post='894185' date='Feb 12 2008, 07:18 AM
Ahhh.... now we get the truth!



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If you bent the metal up, you'll need to get it back in shape or no gasket is going to fix the leak. It really depends on how much its bent. Is the pipe bent, or just the flange?



If the exhaust is in good shape, you can surely salvage it. You might just get a shop to fix it for you, if it's going to need more than just a gasket.



yeah the exhuast is in good shape. just the part near where the header pipe connets is where i think a bolt or some thing holding them together got bent and came off. there is a small gap between them. should i just go to a auto shop and let them weld it together? or just buy some sort of gasket or some headers system to replace it.

Baldy 02-12-2008 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by Leetheslacker' post='894194' date='Feb 11 2008, 05:42 PM
i scrape my exhaust too much.



gaskets never last.



im about to pay someone to weld it together.

haha, before my car died, I had just paid a shop to add in another flange connection.



With it all welded together it was a serious bitch to remove or install.

Rob x-7 02-12-2008 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Leetheslacker' post='894194' date='Feb 11 2008, 05:42 PM
i scrape my exhaust too much.



gaskets never last.



im about to pay someone to weld it together.





maybe a flex pipe will be good for you

1988RedT2 02-12-2008 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by RyoNishi' post='894263' date='Feb 12 2008, 10:14 AM
yeah the exhuast is in good shape. just the part near where the header pipe connets is where i think a bolt or some thing holding them together got bent and came off. there is a small gap between them. should i just go to a auto shop and let them weld it together? or just buy some sort of gasket or some headers system to replace it.



I say either take it to a shop or post a nice clear picture of the connection in question!



It's really hard to offer advice without knowing what the damage looks like. If you're just missing a bolt, then a new gasket and bolts should fix it, but that's assuming the flanges and pipe are in good shape.

Leetheslacker 02-12-2008 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='894279' date='Feb 12 2008, 12:18 PM
maybe a flex pipe will be good for you



but where? im scraping the front flange on my rb presilencer i think, im pretty sure.



not much room for a flex in the header in front of that?

Rob x-7 02-13-2008 07:31 AM

I know they make short ones, I have one on my DP.

if you weld it the whole thing will probably end up breaking anyhow.

Maybe you can get a short one to go forward of the presilencer , might have to cut it down.

RyoNishi 02-13-2008 03:11 PM

everything is good from the muffler tip all the way to where it hits the headers. you get me.. right there is where it is bent and has a gap between it. i think one or two bolts came off during the impact of the curb. can i just take it to the shop and tell them to weld the headers to the pipe where it connets the pipe towards the gasket.

RyoNishi 02-14-2008 03:27 PM

come on rotary dudes. help me out here. could i just weld it together. (the headers flange to exhuast flange or pipe)

Baldy 02-14-2008 03:44 PM

Sure, why not?

RyoNishi 02-15-2008 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by Baldy' post='894502' date='Feb 15 2008, 06:44 AM
Sure, why not?



can i? will that solve the leak between it? if it do ill weld it together instead of buying a whole new exhuast system.

RyoNishi 02-29-2008 08:21 AM

one more question. how much do you guys think it will cost me for me to get it weld together.

Rob x-7 02-29-2008 11:28 AM

on or off the car?





either way figure anywhere from $30-$75

jokerx7 03-05-2008 10:16 PM

You might be able to heat the pipe up with a propane torch and bend it back into spec...

RyoNishi 03-06-2008 03:07 PM

ill just stick to the welding part. not sure if i can raise the car up high enough to do that propane heating thing.


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