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YucA 10-20-2001 09:31 PM

i have had an Autometer water temp gauge for a while, but the sender that it comes with is too big and supposedly they dont make one as small as the one the 2nd gen needs. I have an 88 GXL. Anyone have any suggestions OTHER than drill a tapping to make it bigger, im definetely NOT gonna do that.



thnx

Rxtasy 10-23-2001 06:45 AM

get a guage pod, or mount it else where....I've seen cars that had guages all over the place (not nessacary at all) but the put them on the dash, in the place of the ash tray, pods, wherever they can find a spot.....

- Matt

YucA 10-23-2001 10:45 AM

lemme clear things up... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/tongue.png the Temperature sender that goes in the engine to give the signal to the meter is supposedly different than the stock one(different readings). The one that the Autometer comes with to replace the OEM one in the car is WAY too big, and they supposedly dont make an adapter. Im basically asking of the gauge will work accurately with the stock sender(i doubt it) or if there is some sort of adapter i can buy at home depot or something?? Theres gotta be someone that put a temp gauge on their car :confused:



Another thing. What are regular running temps for an N/A 13B???



Thnx

Rxtasy 10-23-2001 11:01 PM

lol.... I was asleep this morning, sorry... uhm, I dunno, engines normally run at 180 - 190 degrees... I'd hook it up and see what it reads, wouldn't suggest relying on it til you know for sure....you have problems with overheating or anything? and did your other temp guage work fine and have a good reading before or is taht the reason you're switching? if your car didn't have a problem before then I'd say hook it up and see what it reads.... up to you though...

YucA 10-24-2001 09:34 AM

I have an electric fan installed, and even before that, the Stock gauge wouldnt read very accurate. Its usually just 1/4 way up, and lately it seems to be grounding out or something, cause the signal drops causing the needle to drop. I did try it out with the stock sender and it read about 210f and the car was sitting for almost 2 hours, so it was abviously not accurate. I guess im going to call them up again and make sure they dont make something to fit, because i called and got a mixed answer that didnt make much sense from some lady. At last resort i guess ill go to Home depot and see if they make and extension to adapt it.... :wink:



I just got off the phone with AutoMeter and the guy i spoke to was cool enough to send me the diagram he was looking at. Seems i overlooked something in the Haynes Manual. There is the Sender that is the one i been messing with, but there is ANOTHER one right in back of the Water pump. Haynes book calls it "Water Thermo Sensor" thats wut the Tech support guy told me i have to change, looking at it, the sender the Autometer gauge comes with willl fit in there perfectly. What F#cked me up was that the manual clearly states the other one is for the gauge. Imma change it this weekend. will let all u know how it goes....

YucA 11-08-2001 05:23 PM

STILL NOTHING. the guys at autometer dont know jack sh1t. i think im f#cked with this gauge.

dac 11-08-2001 08:45 PM

I've got a AutoMeter on mine. I drilled and tapped the Therostat hosing. There was an area of reinforced aluimun which worked perfectly.

YucA 11-08-2001 10:30 PM

tru that!! is there any way you can email me details or even better details with pics on how you did it?? BTW wut year?



yuca305@bellsouth.net



thanx man

vosko 11-09-2001 01:04 AM

post the info here i'm gonna want to do this also https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

dac 11-10-2001 01:39 AM

I needed 2 Temp sensors, One for my guage and one for my Haltech. I drilled the factory hole and taped that for one of my sensors. I can't recall now if there was a sensor there or just re-enforced metal. Anyway I removed the Thermostat housing and pulled the Thermostat. I pushed a rag into the hole to catch the shavings. I drilled a hole tapped it with Threads. I installed the Haltech Sensor there. This isn't a picture of mine but I mounted it right in this location. (This is a Turbo motor shown).





http://www.hitman.hm/CoolantSensor.jpg



For my second sensor I drilled my Thermostat housing (which comes off easy enough) and has a re-eforced metal area right in it. I tapped a hole for that also. Mine is the model that has the small radiator cap on the housing neck. I picked up a spare at the local wrecking yard for a buck.



You can clearly see the Brass fitting screwed into the thermostat housing in this picture, You can also see the re-enforced metal there that's it's tapped into:

(My motor is a 88 N/A)







http://www.daczone.com/ENGINE03.jpg

YucA 11-10-2001 08:52 AM

hell yea. I was thinking about that same exact spot (i have the same thermostat housing! Thanks alot for the pics and explanation. Thats where mine is going..=)



i just wasnt sure if i put it there if it would have problems with the thermostat itself.



Thanks again for clearing things up.



another thing. Your not running your filter like that are you? if you are WTF is the mass air sensor??? Also wut shot are you juicing? and wut do you have done to your engine. My friend is trying to convince me to get a 50 shot, but i dont wanna blow my engine. heard many horror stories with nos a rotaries.

dac 11-10-2001 12:16 PM

Yes the Air Filter is a K&N Universal (about $50) which fits right on the end of the factory Mazda hosing with the K&N supplied clamp.



I'm running a Haltech, so the AirFilter along with A LOT of hoses and crap under the manifold have been removed.



I've gotta order a dual pulley for my Alternator still as I have air pump on this motor either.



The NOS runs to 2 Fogger nozzles drilled and tapped into the secondaries.



http://www.daczone.com/NOS.jpg



I ran 2 pieces of tubing wrapped around the tubing to reinforce it all (which you can see here in the pic).



I have 50HP and 70HP jets.

YucA 11-10-2001 03:03 PM

damn thats pimp setup u must have in that car. i didnt know that with the Haltech you take out the mass air flow sensor.

1Revvin7 11-10-2001 08:30 PM

Thats ******* BADASS https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/devil.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif

vosko 11-10-2001 09:39 PM

are you trying to see how much power an N/A drivetrain can handle or something ????? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/devil.gif setup looks real nice https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

1Revvin7 11-10-2001 10:03 PM

Whats with the bag around the K&N? IC the nozzle on it.... for cold air induction? Wouldn't that restrict it though?

dac 11-11-2001 12:08 PM

The bag over the filter is just covering the brand new filter. This motor is in a 1990 Suzuki Sidekick... long story, but basically I bought the Suzuki first with a blown motor and needed something to fit the engine bay. A Nissan V6 was one idea, but It looked a little big and being a Rotary fan I knew a 13B would do the trick. Since I wanted the engine, Transmission and all the accessories, I found a great running RX7 with a wrecked body. Thus the project began. The motor fits very nicely. The Suzuki weighs about 2100 lbs, so it should be exciting. After pulling the wiring harness out and telling myself NO WAY... I decided on using the Haltech. I wanted to keep a fuel injected car, But wanted to be able to tune it for my needs. The Haltech was the answer. All I have left to do is wire the fuel pump from the Haltech and 1 radiator hose. The RX7 fuel pump went directly into the Suzuki Sidekick fuel tank. My orginal goal was to double the Suzuki's orginal HP rating, but I know I am way over that. I've just ordered some new wheels last week and am waiting for them to arrive. I still need a full roll cage and limited slip, which I really think are must haves. This should be a 12 second ride.


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